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    the 7.3 ford starter bolts to the ford small block adapter with centering bushing.it is12 tooth pinion the cummins is 13 tooth.will it still work?

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    I'm using a 3 hole from a f-600 on my bh adapter. It is 10 tooth. The pinion is in line with the mounting holes, not offset like the normal 13 tooth starters that the Ford BH adapter uses. I took off bell housing and checked gear lash and engagement just to make sure I wasnt screwing it up and would recommend anybody not using what starter was intended. to do the same. Just to be safe. I have heard people using 7.3 starters, but cannot verify myself. If this does work well please post. Early Bronco/4bts need this for frame clearance issues.

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    I used a 94 to 00 7.3 ford starter with a 3.5x3.94x.44 bushing to center the starter.I blocked the pinion gear out & installed the starter on an engine on a pallet ,the gears meshed perfectly.Will run in truck tomorrow.

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    Started the engine several times today everything seams to work fine.

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    For Future references, do you have the ID tag information on this starter?

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    The starter is already on the truck . The application is f250 7.3 diesel 94 to 00.The starter is a 3 bolt & only the top & bottom holes are used.The solenoid sits no farther from the block than the outside of the starter motor itself.

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    OK, let us know if it develops any issues as far as tooth meshing. I indexed this thread in the Tech Topics Index & was the reason that I asked. If I had the number I could cross reference it and provide all of the mfg part numbers & interchanges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferkey View Post
    I used a 94 to 00 7.3 ford starter with a 3.5x3.94x.44 bushing to center the starter.I blocked the pinion gear out & installed the starter on an engine on a pallet ,the gears meshed perfectly.Will run in truck tomorrow.
    ferkey can u post a link or some sort of #, im looking to replace my starter so i dont have to demolish my frame rail... theres 2 models ive found just want to make sure i get the correct 1. and if the bushing was an easily attained piece?
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    I have about 8000 miles on the same set up it works perfect. The pinoin is offset to make up the difference in tooth count.

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    The starter was bought off e-bay the only #I got is 17578 don't know if that is a ford #. Just started driving the truck.The bushing I had to have made. The truck is a02 ranger 2wd with m5r2 &8.8 3.55 Lots of fun!

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    Ferkey do you have any pics of your rig? Is it a torsion or coil spring suspension? I read that you did a 3" body lift, was this to clear the engine or trans? could you have dropped the engine a corresponding amt and avoided the body lift? Is your intake plumbing running across the top of the engine or ran forward to an IC? C'mon details man, details.
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    I have coil springs &used a94 f150 5sd .I moved the trans mount back 3in &down 1in. The bell housing ,oil pan ,brake booster,steering shaft,steering pump,fan shroud & shift lever all cleared.I did'nt want to cut frame or pan so I resorted to the 3" lift.The intake pipe goes over the top.

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    The starter #is motorcraft sa-817 ,denso 280-4204, mitsibushi m8t50071,&several others .I used the top and bottom bolt holes with a centering bushing.Everything seems to be working fine so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferkey View Post
    The starter #is motorcraft sa-817 ,denso 280-4204, mitsibushi m8t50071,&several others .I used the top and bottom bolt holes with a centering bushing.Everything seems to be working fine so far.
    i bought the one off ebay, 17578 or something like that. installed w/o a bushing, i have yet to start the engine with it...not to that point yet. i did engage it (manually) and it seemed to hang up a little on the disengage, im hoping it doesnt do that during normal operation but i guess ill find out lol
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    It is a fairly sloppy fit without the bushing.I now have about 100 starts on mine and it is working fine.

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    what exactly is this bushing for? is it hard to make?
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    i used the starter w/o the bushing and had no problems. started and shut down engine about 10 times with no problems of starter being stuck engaged.
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    ferkey, do you have any pictures of this setup? I am looking into using the 7.3 starter right now. Is that starter 12v?

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    Ferkey...I have a question about the "3.5x3.94x.44 bushing to center the starter" you mentioned in #3. In my ignorance, I don't know what one is...can you elaborate further on it? Is there a part number or source for it? A picture would really round out this "Stickey. If the 7.3 ford starter is narrower that might save me cutting into my early Bronco frame too.
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    3.5"=inside diameter, 3.94"=outside diameter, .44" =thickness

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    I've got a 4bt sitting on a stand with the powerstroke starter bolted to it. I'll try to get some pics up later tonight, I dont know if I have enough post yet to post a link.

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    Here you go.















    I used the stock spacer machined down. The starter was a tight fit into it, I had to sand the ID a little. It wasnt enough to have to machine it, just a few minutes with some emery cloth. I have to take a little more off the spacer still, it doesnt engage deep enough.

    I also cut off the third mounting hole, so it does stick out past the adapter plate.

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    thats the starter I used on my 4bt with no spacer or mods.
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    Just figured I'd ask, any idea if this will bolt to on the other side of the motor to a dodge adapter/nv4500??

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    no for that you need the starter oun of a dodge cummins, but i cant think what year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawnboy View Post
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    right you are. I had to see for myself because the pics I saw looked very close. Took one to the shop today and it bolted up nicely with all three bolts, perfect fit, did not protrude wide of the adapter. Problem, however, is twofold: 1) gear is about 4mm smaller and 2) gear doesn't reach deep enough into adapter to reach flywheel. Someone could probably make it work but not me.
    Just thought I'd pass along my findings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoranger View Post
    Here you go.


    I used the stock spacer machined down. The starter was a tight fit into it, I had to sand the ID a little. It wasnt enough to have to machine it, just a few minutes with some emery cloth. I have to take a little more off the spacer still, it doesnt engage deep enough.

    I also cut off the third mounting hole, so it does stick out past the adapter plate.
    are you talkin the stock cummins starter spacer

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    man I think im goona try that tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoCoFoMoCo View Post
    are you talkin the stock cummins starter spacer
    Yes I am.

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