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    GERAT pictures of your mounts! Very good quality too. Thanks for posting the photos on this site as opposed to linking them to a photo hosting site. That way the pics will always be here in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machman View Post
    A note I found about the Ford Hydraulic / Fluid mounts:

    Left & Right Improper Installation Will Damage This Mount. Driver's Side is Installed w/ Small End Up. Passenger's Side is Installed w/ Small End Down.

    I'd be interested in seeing the "stock" install of these to see why it would matter..
    That's an interesting point. I blew out a hydro mount on mine and I had both mounts facing up. Guess which side blew out...

    They were stock ranger mounts tho but they look like the P30s but a little smaller.

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    back to the top for this thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berg View Post
    Here is a set of Bolt on GM mounts ..years 1990-1977 Blazer and Suburban, the old square style trucks IIRC that I passed on.. ( I was a dumb a**- New crate Motor, GM mounts, GM adapter and Flywheel etc) for $3k:frown: only if I could do that over again..

    If I recall someone here in the west still makes this set for $299 I'll see if I can find the source.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikel View Post
    Hello,
    As Tacoma said, this is a M715 that I'm turning into a 6x6. That picture is fairly old. I have switched the 4BT in favor of a 6BT (the 4BT will be going into a lighter vehicle) and I'm in the process of building new motor mounts now.
    I didn't have a crossmember under the 4BT, but I will make one for the heavier 6BT.
    A couple of old pics... A big deal of this has been undone, specially the rear suspension(s), to mimic that of a duece and a half's. Just don't tell the guys at the M715zone :biggrin:



    OK I jealous now! That's cool a 6x6. How will you tie in the back diff?
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    Default here is a link to my motor mount

    I used some research imformation and used it as a reference when making the mount . The mount has the insulater placed above the crank centerline. I am not sure by how much . I suspect each engine would have its own sweet spot for creating minimal sweep.
    http://www.powerwagonadvertiser.com/...2242#post52242
    The photo is fraggin HUGE and very clear. Center of number 2 cylinder and i have not seen another design like this one. Lots of hours fabbing this one up. made from about 5 pieces of 1/4 plate.
    One of these days i will pay off a suscription and be able to post photos.

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    Wink 2003-2007 Dodge Cummins Common Rail Motor Mounts.

    Heres some photos of the '03-'07 5.9L Cummins mounts, they are a different style than before, they look to be a better design compaired to the previous generation Dodge Ram mounts.
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    The rubbers on those look alot like the chevy big block rubbers. weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beck View Post
    bt4mpg,
    I like those GM mounts. The 4bt is heavier than the 454, but I think they will handle that. What I am confused about is handling all the shake. I think the GM mount will give more than the early Dodge 6bt mounts I used. If I would have seen your mounts I would have probably copied them since I have a supply of the GM parts on hand.
    I'm sorry I haven't replied yet. I'm not sure if I can comment on them yet. I haven't been around another 4BT to compare. My 4BT has engine vibrations that I believe are either injection timing related or just part of the design (minus harmonic dampener or balanced assembly or ...). The truck is very smooth when not in that narrow rpm of vibration. In neutral, I can feel the vibrations in the fender and can make it go away by changing the engine rpm. I believe that it is not the fault of the motor mounts. The plan is to play with injection timing a little (after I get the tach hooked up).
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    Dumb question whats witht eh 53 and 37 degree angle differece on the moutn ion the top of the page. Also I am looking at my industrial catalog for hevay equipemtn and gonna find something that will hold this engine and easy to obtain will post a picture when I can get a chance to scan them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by franks71vw View Post
    Dumb question whats witht eh 53 and 37 degree angle differece on the moutn ion the top of the page. Also I am looking at my industrial catalog for hevay equipemtn and gonna find something that will hold this engine and easy to obtain will post a picture when I can get a chance to scan them..
    Many of these mounts are designed for a 45* angle installation. Since the GM setup with automatic transmissions have an 8* motor tilt the mounts need to have +8* or -8* built into them. This gives the mount a 53* angle on one side and a 37* angle on the other.

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    you mean when you mate the tranny to the bellhousing the engine sits 8* to a side and thus the need for moutns to be like that?

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    The flywheel housing (engine adapter as some call it) for chevys has the bellhousing bolt pattern rotated 8deg in relation to the bolt pattern on the back of the engine block where the housing bolts up.
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    umm ok i will allow you to say whatever but I still dont get it the engine will sit like that naturally? I have never seen a cummins sit like that. But again only seen them in industrial applications?

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    franks they sit like that here...
    these engines are from p30 box trucks and the chevy bell housing adapter has them sitting like this, i believe it was to clear the steering components in the p30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBox_Johnny View Post
    franks they sit like that here...
    these engines are from p30 box trucks and the chevy bell housing adapter has them sitting like this, i believe it was to clear the steering components in the p30.
    It was tilted to provide clearance between the engine's injection system and the doghouse floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobS View Post
    It was tilted to provide clearance between the engine's injection system and the doghouse floor.
    I'll second that!!!
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    thanks bob i knew it was something like that...

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    OK now I got it lol thanks.

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    These are the motor mounts I will be using on 4BT/S-10 swap.
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    Default Those look nice

    Those look nice. How much are they. What do you use for rubber and frame mounts?

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    Made these over the weekend.

    Picked up a 1/2 sheet of a 1/4" steel (4'X4') for $90, all is that diameter with the exception of the flange plates that will bolt to frame, they are 5/16".

    Instead of welding the mounts on I drilled 1" holes in the frame for 1/2" ID, 1/4" wall sleeves, which I will weld into the frame later this week, this will allow me to move engine back, forward, up or down by simply drilling the same pattern holes into the flange in a different location (lets say if I wanted to try different motor mounts, etc).

    BTW, I am using the stock tater truck liquid mounts.







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    I finally got pictures of my mounts. I think it turned out alright from some that doesn't fab.




    Edit: I had to change the image link. First time using photobucket.

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    Poolmike,did you use the tilt to keep the oil pan out of the ft diff?Been mocking up mine(still closed knuckle) tilt appears to move it away from diff,but my pto shaft looks as if it will hit the other side.been considering pan notch if I ever get the trans selection sorted out.Big Dodge b/h and Getrag wants too far forward,sm 420 with a Ranger shoves motor forward 7.5 in and shifts terrible,and a 475 turbo with no O/D and 5.88s wont work.Now wondering 4l80 and a custom adapter for 205.

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    Someone needs to cast a lightweight mock up for these 4s.With trans,about 1000 lbs(gotta be an easier way)

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    Here mine are.




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