I think I am more confused than you. I already have mated everything together all the way back to my Dana 20 transfer case before realizing I needed to rebuild the motor due to thrust-bearing parts in the stock oil pan. Just this week thinking everything was coming together finally the shop that did the rebuild tried to start it up. The starter does not work with the flywheel. Are you telling me that you think with the adapter plate I have a Dodge Cummins starter will bolt up and work with the flywheel I have? Because the Ford starter bolted right up to the adapter plate but doesn't work with the flywheel. Are you saying that the Ford 7.3L starter and the Dodge Cummins starter have identical bolt patterns?I think I'm a bit confused here. You have an adapter plate 3912184. That is spec'd for the 89-93 Dodge. That one will work with the NV4500 but it is thinner. You will need a special bellhousing for the NV4500 to match that adapter plate. Advance adapters has that for $420. The Ford starters won't work with that plate. You need a Dodge starter for that one. That adapter plate was used with the Getrag transmissions. Your flywheel 3942798 is for the NV4500. You have unmatched parts which is going to cost you more money. You're best bet is probably to find the correct block adapter for the NV4500. I believe that part # is 3923045 which would be a lot cheaper than that bellhousing adapter. You need a starter for a '94-02 Dodge Cummins to match that. Hopefully, then everything will match up.
Someone on this site has "rotated" the starter because of clearance problems, it has been done. He used round stock, drill and tapped for the starter bolts, then bored the adapter plate for the new location and welded in place.Well as it turns out the starter that works with my new adapter plate and flywheel hits the frame of my Bronco once the motor is mounted back in the frame. Is anyone aware of an alternative starter that has the correct gear/teeth and bolt pattern that is a lower profile or has the "motor" part of the starter rotated to be more around 12 o'clock?
Could you post a pic of the interference with the starter and frame?It doesn't look to me like modifying the adapter plate is going to be very realistic in my case given how drastic the rotation is I would need. I'm highly considering modifying my frame instead. I'm open to suggestions of any kind at this point. I've reached out to "The Mean Green" vendor regarding their starter that claims to be "1/3 smaller than stock" to see if they can send me a diagram with dimensions. I've yet to hear back from them.
Yes, I had the 7.3 starter installed with the Ford adapter plate which wouldn't interface with the Dodge 6BT Flywheel. Are you saying you successfully used the 7.3L starter with a Dodge adapter plate and flywheel?Several members as well as myself have used the 7.3 starter in a narrow frame https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Starter-Ford-7-3L-7-3-Diesel-F150-F250-F350-F450-Pickup-94-95-96-97-98-99-00/362002017213?hash=item5449006bbd:g:EvYAAOSwywRaEGSP:rk:26:pf:0 I wasnt willing to notch my frame. Yes its a tooth short and I lopped the spare ear off, never had an issue.
Sadly I cannot realistically capture a picture by myself of the issue. I'll see if I can get someone to try and capture some pictures while I hold the starter roughly in place. Essentially if I orient the large "off-shoot" motor part at roughly 12 o'clock I can get the starter seated properly with the adapter plate. Then I tried to rotate it clock-wise so all three bolt holes would line up but it runs into the frame before the bolt holes align.Could you post a pic of the interference with the starter and frame?
Apologize, I'm thinking ford sb bell housing. But now I would like to know that answer out of curiosity as well. I am away from home working for a month or so and will check it out.Yes, I had the 7.3 starter installed with the Ford adapter plate which wouldn't interface with the Dodge 6BT Flywheel. Are you saying you successfully used the 7.3L starter with a Dodge adapter plate and flywheel?