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This is just a tease. The actual work will begin in January 2020.
Had the Ppump 4BT for several years, finely got around to the initial start up, it lives!


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Sweet success
Yes it is, thanks.
Read back through some old posts and found out that I had bought this engine in August of 2014 (5 years ago). Refreshed some gaskets at the time and it's been sitting since then. I did occasionally turn the crank over by hand at least once a year.
The plan for the Wagoneer is:
Keep the 3.31 geared D44's.
Upgrade the p235/75R15 to LT's slightly bigger. Wife wants to keep the alloy rims.
Use a Diesel A518/46RH trans.
Use the Atlas Tcase 3:1 we bought 5 years ago.
Probably will have to do a 4" spring lift to clear front diff.
Other wise keep it looking stock as we can.
Heres the wagoneer the day I bought it;
 

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Very nice looking Jeep. Have you considered using the A618/47RH transmission. It would give you a lock up converter and better fuel mileage if any long distance trips were in the plans. If it's going to be mostly short hauls then the A518/46RH would do OK. That one can be converted to a lock up as the gas models had it, but not sure what all would be involved there.
 

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Yes did look at the 47RH. But came across the first 46rh for almost free, couldn't turn it down. Went to buy a 47rh but seller didn't know what he had, turned out to be a 46rh. Dropped his price and now I have 2 of them. Now that I'm "retired" not doing the long haul 46rh will do. Yes I've know about the conversion of the 46rh to lockup but the price of the torque converter turns me off.
My 91.5 Dodge Diesel, auto, W250 get around 16 mpg so I figure the Wagoneer mileage should be close to 20. I can live with that.
 

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Nice waggy, I have an 89 gold exterior with sand interior. Mines got a p-pump 6bt with a 727, swapping a 47rh 241dld soon! With the 3 speed I am seeing 18-20 mpg. Stock 44s with 3.31s and 33s

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Nice waggy, I have an 89 gold exterior with sand interior. Mines got a p-pump 6bt with a 727, swapping a 47rh 241dld soon! With the 3 speed I am seeing 18-20 mpg. Stock 44s with 3.31s and 33s
Ken
Thanks,
I do remember looking at your recent post, clean wagoneer. A 6b and a winch up front, what more could you ask for.
 

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After all that talk, no land cruiser? For shame.
This one is "hers", there's still hope for a LC.
After looking over the specs for all the LC's I've settled on a FJ62 for the swap. It's going to come down to available and price. Right now no Wagoneers or FJ62 in AZ for sale that I'd consider. There's still hope for a LC.
 
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Update on the Wagoneer 4BT Swap:
The wife has decided that the Wagoneer (with the 4BT) is not for her! That means that I get to do what I want with the Wagoneer. That means there is no Land Cruiser in my immediate future, sorry GLTHFJ60. The wife found her a 2005 Jeep Liberty Sport, auto, 4x4, already lifted (3") with winch bumper and a winch installed.
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The wife likes it and that's what counts.

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Did I mention it's a Common Rail Diesel?
We did the research on the engine, a 2.8L I4 VM Diesel and found no faults other than its electronicly controlled. The bugs have been worked out on it and the engine is use world wide except in the US, prior to 2020. I've been spending some time getting it road worthy, new brake pads and rotors etc.
 

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Back on subject.
I've wanted to run the full Dodge accessory drive including the AC pump but because of the asymmetry of the AC pump mounting it's been a problem. I thought I'd look for a adapter for the rear of the Dodge AC pump to get the threaded O ring ports and keep the Dodge pump. Could not find one for Dodge, found them for every thing but Dodge. RockAuto had a listing for new pumps, one of them for the Dodge is a Sanden SD7H15. Quick search found a SD7H15 model 4822.
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It's the same pump used on the Dodge but with threaded ports.

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In order to put a class 3 hitch on the Wagoneer I need to do this before I relocated the fuel tank to where the spare tire was located. The length of the 46RH pushes the Tcase into the factory gas tank so can't use the factory gas tank, which is inside the frame rails on the drivers side, it has to go.
Picked up a Cherokee hitch for the price of the metal.
The Cherokee hitch ended up being a inch short on both sides plus the flanges went to the outside, So the only thing that I was able to salvage from the Cherokee hitch were the end pieces. Since I couldn't weld on the top area of the tube, reinforced all the other welds with 4 stringers and added a reinforcement on the inside.
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The Cherokee mounted the hitch with a series of bolts inline. The Wagoneer had 2 mounts at the rear also used for the bumper and 2 mounts at the spring mount.
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Beautiful Wagoneer. I'm an old FSJ guy myself. Nice Liberty too. I just bought my youngest boy an 04 Liberty for his 17th Birthday. Looks to be the same blue color as yours. Teaching him to drive now. God help us all.
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Beautiful Wagoneer. I'm an old FSJ guy myself. Nice Liberty too. I just bought my youngest boy an 04 Liberty for his 17th Birthday. Looks to be the same blue color as yours. Teaching him to drive now. God help us all.
Your son's Liberty is really pretty, linda's not so much. But I'd take a ugly Diesel any day.
 

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Scout: I have to intervene here. You absolutely must put a Gladiator Front End on that Jeep! I have this picture of a Black Waggy with that Front End on it and it was one of the coolest Jeeps I've ever seen and it even had a 4BT in it as well. It is a strait up bolt on conversion as the Gladiator Pickups were the same body as the Waggy's were.
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Scout: I have to intervene here. You absolutely must put a Gladiator Front End on that Jeep! I have this picture of a Black Waggy with that Front End on it and it was one of the coolest Jeeps I've ever seen and it even had a 4BT in it as well. It is a strait up bolt on conversion as the Gladiator Pickups were the same body as the Waggy's were.
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Randy, I couldn't agree more, having a Gladiator front end would be coolest! Except there hard to find and expensive if you can find an original in good shape. You never know, it could happen.
 
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Not to further hijack this thread, but, that grill is termed the Rhino grill within the FSJ crowd and was indeed installed in the Wagoneers until the 1966 model year. So, it wasn't just installed on the Gladiator J-Trucks. Definitely becoming few and far between. I found a Rhino grill set up and installed on my 82 J10. Simple bolt on conversion.
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