Cummins 4BT & Diesel Conversions Forums banner

41 - 60 of 91 Posts

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #41 ·
Next is the turbo drain. The weld(s) aren't pretty but they don't leak. Used the fixture for the leak test with minerial sprits, did have 3 pin holes but thats fixed.
128988
128989
128990
128991
128993
128995


Really need to invest in a TIG welder, even the wife said the welds look fat and ugly.
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #42 ·
Remake of the turbo drain:
Tried to make the engine mount work under the turbo drain, would not work with what I wanted. So scrapped that one and went to flex tube with -10 AN fittings.
129212

Tried to take this pic from the same point as the one above. The flex line now clears the bolt holes.
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #43 ·
Engine mounts: First mockups

129214

129215

129216

129217
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,842 Posts
Now,,, you are planning on using thicker material for the mounts,,, Right?

I would also recommend running the gussets out to at least the hole for the Rubber Mount. Farther if possible.

Go look at the Base Plates of my Motor Mounts of page 1 of my Thread. The actual mounts are a different style than yours, but the base plates do the same thing.

On the Left Side I used the 4 holes in the block, and that mount is in line with the #3 Cylinder.

The Right Side mount had to snake around the turbo drain, drop down and then go forward to pick up the two holes at the front of the block. That mount is in line with the #2 cylinder.

You well know these engines weigh 750 lbs and vibrate like hell, so the mounts have to be solid and strong so the engine doesn't move around.

Randy
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #45 ·
Now,,, you are planning on using thicker material for the mounts,,, Right?
edit........
Randy
Randy, The mounts are nonfuncting models used for test fitment, better than using cardboard.
I plan on using 1/4" material at least. If I can find 3/8" I will, fully gusseted. On the Scout I was able to use 1/4" only because the mounts were mounted next to the base. These test mounts extent out 4". The final mounts may extend out further.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,998 Posts
The DS plate looks like it sticks out pretty far from the front mounting bolts. Can you not use the center block mounting bolts instead? Or tie the plate into the center block mounting bolts?

I might extend the gussets a little farther out to the mount bolt centerline, but otherwise, 1/4" would be plenty for that.
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #47 ·
The DS plate looks like it sticks out pretty far from the front mounting bolts. Can you not use the center block mounting bolts instead? Or tie the plate into the center block mounting bolts?

I might extend the gussets a little farther out to the mount bolt centerline, but otherwise, 1/4" would be plenty for that.
Johnny C,
As of now both sides extend 4" from the base altho the driver side has extra 1.5 because of the way it's made. The pasenger side mount will be centered on cyl #3 leaving room up front for the AC compressor. The DS will be centered on cyl #2, staying out of the way of the starter motor.
Some of this could change when the engine is setting between the frame rails.
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #48 · (Edited)
Unfortunately any further Wagoneer upgrades are going to have to wait, probably until the end of next March. The wife's Jeep Liberty suspension parts were 2 months late, the CVPI had a unfortunate accident which I'm in the middle of fixing so her jeep didn't get it's fix. And the wife is in her 4th of 12 courses of chemo which is taking a toll on her. Were having to spend every other week at the clinic 80 miles from home for the chemo sessions. They have a guest house were staying at, it's nice but it's not home.
The Wagoneer will get done only later.
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #50 ·
:( Sorry to hear it man. I'll be thinking of you and your wife, good luck with treatments.
Thank you.
Just got back from the 5th round of treatments, she is doing well.
On another subject I bought the Crown Vic to make these "chemo" trips less daunting for her. It cruises at 80 with out any problems and gets 20 mpg. It really needs a PoweStroke.
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #51 ·
I've thought I had a problem with my wife's Atlas T case that's going into the Wagoneer. Had it on the bench with the shifters installed and couldn't get into low range for the front axle. Talked with Advance Adapters about my "perceived" problem and got different answers from each one. Had to make a jig to support it while on the bench for reassembly.
130421
130422
130423

I'd forgotten that it's a fully synchronized trans and the gears need to be turning to shift. I had jammed the low range synchronizing cones into the gear. So I had to take the low range gears out and un-stick it.

Did a little bit of preventive maintenance, Removed a small piece of casting flash from the inside of the T case. A light tap from a chisel and it came free.
130424
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,842 Posts
Yes, an Atlas has to be moving to shift,, We want the Gladiator Front Clip!!!
130426


Randy
 
  • Like
Reactions: SUBRUTUS

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #53 ·
Yes, an Atlas has to be moving to shift,, We want the Gladiator Front Clip!!! View attachment 130426

Randy
2 hurdles to over come, the cost of the grill and where to put the AC condenser. The grill that I have leaves a space between grill and the bulk head, enough for the condenser and dryer. We'll see how much room is left when I start the swap.

And the good news, is after the last PET scan my wife's oncologist says she is cancer free.🙏
The swap is back on!
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
389 Posts
2 hurdles to over come, the cost of the grill and where to put the AC condenser. The grill that I have leaves a space between grill and the bulk head, enough for the condenser and dryer. We'll see how much room is left when I start the swap.

And the good news, is after the last PET scan my wife's oncologist says she is cancer free.🙏
The swap is back on!
Now that's the best news;)(y)
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #56 ·
What I've been doing,
Fixed the T Case but, Had a small set back with the T case, had a leak on the front output seal housing, Resealed that. Found out that using anaerobic sealers it takes days to cure a low temps not a few hours.

The donor 46RH is looking good inside. Never worked on a auto trans so this is all new to me. The residual ATF is clean and red. Have a reman torque converter (stock) coming should be here on the 18. I'm putting in a TransGo TFOD-Diesel SHIFT KIT in the valve body. Supposedly this kit will not jerk your neck when shifting. Replacing all external shaft seals and have a reman trans pump to go in.

130577
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #57 ·
In the process of cleaning, inspecting the VB found a crack on one of the inner plates. A couple of spot welds (both sides)to prevent the crack getting longer or having it break off. The cavity in that area is non pressurized.
130764
130765
 
  • Like
Reactions: Russ McLean

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,701 Posts
Good eye - Makes me wonder what sort of vibration would cause that crack?
 

·
Premium Member
1989 Jeep Wagoneer, 360v8, 727, stock for now,
Joined
·
2,708 Posts
Discussion Starter · #60 ·
Good eye - Makes me wonder what sort of vibration would cause that crack?
Usually, was there an easy fix on cracks like that?
It's a mystery as to what caused that crack. That area does have some vents for fluid but they are very small.
I first looked for a replacement, best I could find was a used valve body for $150 on ebay. The plate turned out to be mild steel so easy to weld. The best I could do was the spot welds. The shadows are walls separating areas that are under pressure, so no welding there.
 
  • Like
Reactions: crayonzesty
41 - 60 of 91 Posts
Top