[Fleabag]

Hey, just brought home a dovebid van that I bought for the 4bta that is in van to put in my ffpw, the starter was not on engine and I would like to know what starter I need for a gm/ cummins set up? If any one has a part number, number of teeth etc please let me know. If anyone has one for sale email me. Thanks Fleabag!!

 

[BobS]

Cummins Cpl 858 Starter Cross Reference P30 Chevy And Ford

NOTE: THE STARTER FROM CUMMINS IS USUALLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE

Cummins 4BT CPL858 Starter Cross References:

Starter, Nipondenso, Cummins 3904466, Nipondenso

Starter cross reference numbers:

Bosch SR9948X
Case 104452A1, 104452A2R, 1987559CI, 1987586C1, A170745, A170746, A181056
Cummins 3604485RX, 3604660RX, 3675154RX, 3904466, 3920403, 3920643, 3926960, 3957594
Delco 10461636, 10465532, 10465533, 10465540
Denso 128000-0210, 128000-0211, 128000-0212, 128000-0213, 128000-0214, 128000-0215, 128000-0216, 128000-0540, 128000-0541, 128000-0542, 128000-0543, 128000-0544, 128000-0545, 128000-2270, 128000-2271, 128000-2272, 128000-2273, 128000-2480, 128000-3120, 128000-3121, 128000-3122, 128000-3123, 128000-9500, 128000-9501, 128000-9502, 128000-9503, 228000-0620, 228000-0621, 228000-0622, 228000-0623, 228000-1950, 228000-1951, 228000-1952, 228000-1953, 228000-4670, 228000-4671, 228000-9100, 9712809-021, 9712809-950
Dixie S8254, S8299, S8534
International Truck 1308066H91, 1987559C1
Kubota 15461-63015

The P30 Chevy starter may be listed as an industrial equipment type. This starter is used with both automatic and manual Ford and GM transmission-flywheel- adapter sets found in P30 4BT retrofits.

 

[LincTex]

Has anyone ever bought one from a parts house like NAPA?

I know Advance/Autozone wouldn't carry one....but NAPA usually can get many more parts. I have a Case dealer that is local if I ever needed one, but they are probably pretty pricey.

 

[Ggg]

I can get them at NAPA and Carquest just tell them to look it up by the P30 chassis. Same for the water pump, P/S pump, thermostat, tensioner pullye, etc.

 

[Machman]

You can do crossovers at www.napaonline.com to get NAPA's part number.

Looks like they offer it in the Wilson line (this is for the Cummins 3904466 part number, blatant copy and paste operation):

Item#: WIL91295138

Price: $284.00
Core: $83.50

tax and shipping not included

Disclaimer: The stated price may vary from the in store price and may change at anytime.


Attributes:
O.E. Manufacturer: Denso
Voltage: 12 Volt
Type: Gear Reduction
Kilowatt Rating: 2.5 Kw
Rotation: CW
# of Teeth: 13


Once a counterman, always a counterman..
And no, I don't work for them anymore. Honest..

 

[LincTex]

I can get them at NAPA and Carquest just tell them to look it up by the P30 chassis. Same for the water pump, P/S pump, thermostat, tensioner pullye, etc.

Excellent info! Thanks!

Do their parts books actually list a Cummins engine for the P30?
I can't imagine why it would if it wasn't an engine offered from the factory.

 

[Jcrow]

Napa dosen't list a starter for the cummins 3.9 in a Chevy P-30 on their website. It may be different if you actually talk to somebody over the phone.

 

[darkangel]

I've had good luck asking for a 91 or 92 P-30 at NAPA... They found the belt for my 4bt in the paper catalogs.

 

[Ggg]

Excellent info! Thanks!

Do their parts books actually list a Cummins engine for the P30?
I can't imagine why it would if it wasn't an engine offered from the factory.

I believe it was a factory option I just tell them it is a P30 and usually the next question they ask is what engine and I tell them a 3.9 Cummins and they find the part in the books, not the computer.

 

[mooktank]

They're about $100 on ebay brand new.

 

[kladd]

my ebay starter (cummins 3904466) dont fit

after reading the above cross reference sheet I bought a starter off ebay. was said to be compatible with cummins numbers 3904466 as well as 3920643. it is a 2-lug mount but bolt spacing is only 4.75 inches and my adaptor is 5" between lugs. also the hole size in the adapter is larger than the starter requires.

my adaptor is for a ford small block - a zf5 bolts up to it just fine. calling the ebay vendor produced no real satisfaction as they dont know anything about cummins/p30's and only want part numbers. when i bought my 4bt it came with no starter.

did they send me the wrong starter or is my adaptor somehow wrong? i am pretty sure the starter is wrong. anyone recomend a good starter vendor? is 5" between lug bolts right?

thanks!
kevin

 

[Cory Smith]

Just this morning I installed a Wilson starter from Napa, the same one Machman mentioned above, except it was only $199. Bolted right up to my Ford flywheel housing and works fine.

 

[BobS]

after reading the above cross reference sheet I bought a starter off ebay. was said to be compatible with cummins numbers 3904466 as well as 3920643. it is a 2-lug mount but bolt spacing is only 4.75 inches and my adaptor is 5" between lugs. also the hole size in the adapter is larger than the starter requires.

my adaptor is for a ford small block - a zf5 bolts up to it just fine. calling the ebay vendor produced no real satisfaction as they dont know anything about cummins/p30's and only want part numbers. when i bought my 4bt it came with no starter.

did they send me the wrong starter or is my adaptor somehow wrong? i am pretty sure the starter is wrong. anyone recomend a good starter vendor? is 5" between lug bolts right?

thanks!
kevin

You have the incorrect starter. I just double checked the NAPA number which came back as a Wilson brand starter & is correct. Is your incorrect starter made in China?

 

[LincTex]

I see the ones for Case backhoes on ebay all the time, I wonder if those would work.

 

[bt4mpg]

I recently changed my starter and used Dixie #246-25112. It is rated at 2.8kW and has an extra grounding lug on the case.

 

[kladd]

will let you know how it goes....

thanks for all the input.

i was hoping to score a $100 ebay starter but its becoming a hassle. the napa deal for $199 is looking better tho.

am anxious since i really need starter to place engine in f250 bay...

kevin

 

[LincTex]

I recently changed my starter and used Dixie #246-25112.

Where did you buy it? How much?

 

[LincTex]

I recently changed my starter and used Dixie #246-25112.

There are some good numbers to cross reference to:

http://dixie-electric.com/content/..\pronew\246_000_001.pdf

 

[bt4mpg]

From my supplier at Northern Virginia Supply. I believe he used his account to get it directly from the distributor in Pennsylvania. I bought it 05/21/2007 for $153.20 + $7.66 tax + $12.50 freight = $173.36.

 

[marcdeluca]

When I bought my Frito truck, the maintenance guy gave me a catalog for a place in Calif that sells parts. It is called Crest Fleet Supply. www.crestfleet.com. I haven't bought from them yet. The starter is item # 181021 in their catalog. Phone # is 800-452-5595, and they sell to individuals.