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Howdy all! I'm trying to collect all the parts necessary to do a diesel jeep build. I've got a matched set of D60's so far as well as the steel to build a stronger frame for my '73 CJ5. Now I have to options when it comes to the engine. The first is to go through my friend who is a diesel mechanic for the county. He comes across 4BT's occasionally and I can get one for a fairly reasonable price. My second option is to use an engine that my buddy has. It's a Deutz 3 cyl. It's a nice size to mount in a Jeep I'm just not sure if it's possible. I'm not sure what the engine was designed for. Because I'm not familiar with this brand or model is a free engine worth it trying to shoe-horn in??

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My guess is the performance is not worth the effort and cost of installing it. Do you know what HP it is, I am thinking less than 100 hp? If so you would not need Dana 60 axles.

Free is not always cheaper....

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I agree with the other two. What your going to save in the short fall, your going to spend in the long run. By that I mean parts for your odd engine, transmissions that will fit, RPM range of your motor. I like the idea of using an off the wall engine but I think it's going to cost more in the end.

That being said, I'm sure this was what people told the first to install a 4BT in a 4X4.:D

Good Luck which ever way you choose to go.:beer:
 

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We work with Deutz 912/913, 1011F, 1012/1013, and the big V-8 at work. The German engineering is over-the-top! Special tools are required to work on just about everything. And they are expensive, with a parts depot in Norcross, GA. They are excellent when they run well, but if you have a problem, you'll probably be cussing the over-the-top engineers.
 

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Howdy all! I'm trying to collect all the parts necessary to do a diesel jeep build. I've got a matched set of D60's so far as well as the steel to build a stronger frame for my '73 CJ5. Now I have to options when it comes to the engine. The first is to go through my friend who is a diesel mechanic for the county. He comes across 4BT's occasionally and I can get one for a fairly reasonable price. My second option is to use an engine that my buddy has. It's a Deutz 3 cyl. It's a nice size to mount in a Jeep I'm just not sure if it's possible. I'm not sure what the engine was designed for. Because I'm not familiar with this brand or model is a free engine worth it trying to shoe-horn in??

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Hi, This is studedude and obviously I have a thing for Studebakers. The Deutz engine is German built and is made in many sizes. All Deutz engines that I have ever seen are air cooled and have to be one of the most reliable I know of. I have a Miller "Big Blue" Model 500D that uses a Deutz engine for power and have never had any issues with it. The only Swap I know of was into a mid sixties Chevy half ton and the owner could not praise it enough. You would run into an awful lot of fitment problems as far as transmission,mounts,etc though. Also the three cylinder model would probably be underpowered for your Jeep. I am doing a 4bt into a 72 Ford F150 and am seriously contemplating one into a 53 11/2 ton Studebaker truck. The ONLY problem I know of that the 4bt has is vibration and the larger the vehicle is the less of a problem that is. You can get bellhousing adapters for all three major US manufacturers and several foreign ones. There are more of them than any other suitable ones. The weight class of the engine is much more inline with what came out of most vehicles than say a CAT engine. It is almost the perfect diesel for a swap into most american passenger vehicles. I have a Hot Rod magazine that has a picture of one in a 37 Chevy Rod.Ya'll forgive me for being so long winded I guess age has something to do with it. In a nutshell, regrettably, forget the Deutz and find you a 4bt.
 

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The Deutz is an outstanding engine in every regard, but the 3 cylinder would not be my first choice for a driver. They shake HORRIBLY at idle.
 

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I'll agree with what all of the others have said. I have worked with a small Deutz air-cooled in an aerial lift, and it did shake a LOT. Not all Deutz engines are air cooled. They make larger engines that are water cooled. I had a couple Iveco box trucks that used Deutz 6 cyl. turbo diesels and they ran great, had plenty of power, and were quite reliable. The 6 cyl. Deutz engines are close in size to a 6b Cummins.

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Deutz engines are good, if you keep up with the maintenance and you have to have good fuel. A little bit of trash can cause big bucks. At my work, we only see the 1011 and 1011F four cylinders, which run a timing belt instead of gear drive, and are oil cooled.
 

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I had a deutz / iveco caravan it had a 4 cyl non turbo air cooler in it and the engine prefered to rev and did not lige to run slow (oil temp would climb big time) I believe it was 70 HP and approx 2.5L displacement
 

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I have a deutz specialist near here so a deutz vehicle and I are destined.bounce
 

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What model is the engine? Should be easy to find out the power rating. Phoenix probably has the adaptor and bell housing you need. What transmission do you want to use? Talk to Bill Probably have to fab motor mounts.

Howdy all! I'm trying to collect all the parts necessary to do a diesel jeep build. I've got a matched set of D60's so far as well as the steel to build a stronger frame for my '73 CJ5. Now I have to options when it comes to the engine. The first is to go through my friend who is a diesel mechanic for the county. He comes across 4BT's occasionally and I can get one for a fairly reasonable price. My second option is to use an engine that my buddy has. It's a Deutz 3 cyl. It's a nice size to mount in a Jeep I'm just not sure if it's possible. I'm not sure what the engine was designed for. Because I'm not familiar with this brand or model is a free engine worth it trying to shoe-horn in??

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I have a f5l912 100 hp in a 1977 gmc p30 and it runs good it could use more gears, only 4 speed, but runs good I also have a f3l912 58 hp in an atlas copco air comp with a bad air side. if the 3 cyl runs as good as the 5 does, it would be ok in a jeep. about 4000 lbs?. the bread truck is about 8200 lbs and runs along good.
 
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