[andrewhpaul]

Driving around with light towing for the most part.. It might would need a heavier load occasionally

 

[86c20]

its a dodge half ton with 3/4 springs i missed that. cats seem to be heavy even the small ones i think a 3126 is 1200ish? i would be worried about the front axle.

 

[andrewhpaul]

My front axle is the same they used for on the firs gen cummins . With added support I believe it could hold a caterpillar..

 

[twiisted71]

I kind of assumed a cheap-o home built truss would be a given on a Dana 60. Are you lucky enough to have gotten a Dana 61 and Dana 71s with the 3.07 gearing?

 

[andrewhpaul]

No I have 3.55 gears

 

[boothybunch]

Very first post, he tells what truck he wants to use, then in post 3 he elaborates about it somewhat.

we know what truck he is using, my point was is it going to be just a driver, occasional tow vehicle or a dedicated tow vehicle. That's what I am getting as. You can suggest one engine for one purpose or it might be better to suggest another.

Do you understand my question now???

I can see andrew knew what i was asking in #21

now to the axle question.

Believing an axle is strong enough and KNOWING an axle is strong enough is two separate avenues. You have to consider How you would feel if you dropped a cat in your truck and driving down the road you bent something. Hopefully you don't have an accident.

If any doubt, air on the side of STRONGER.

 

[andrewhpaul]

It should definatly be able to support a 4 cylinder I would think

 

[boothybunch]

Do you have a budget in mind for the engine???

Not sure if it's true, but i read somewhere that the baby cats are made by perkins

 

[andrewhpaul]

Haven't really set a budget for it yet

 

[andrewhpaul]

Does anyone know the weights of 4 cyl cats such as 3114 and 3204? Looked all over internet and can find just about very spec except for weight.. I found the weight on the 3304 but it's a 7 liter 1500Ibs motor.. If I'm gonna do that I might as well do one of the 6 cylinders.. So if anyone could find the weights for those other 4 cylinders that would be great

 

[phil453t]

3114 is 1220lbs. I will keep my comments to myself, seeing how 3126 cats ruin my days at work.

 

[phil453t]

The ta engines do make respectable power.

 

[andrewhpaul]

Ok anyone have a number on the 3204?

 

[HemiChallenger]

Hate to be debbie downer but this idea and thread are a waste of time.

Has anyone on here ever worked on, owned or driven a 3208, 3116, 3126 etc.? Phil knows whats up.

 

[twiisted71]

Has anyone on here ever worked on, owned or driven a 3208, 3116, 3126 etc.? Phil knows whats up.

Yes. I have. Couple of 3208s. That's why I don't recommend them unless building to a 2-ton-ish chassis level. Plus they are slow compared to what's available now.

 

[roachie]

I've seen a few 3208 swaps, a single perkipillar swap. As far as weight, the marine 210hp is 1500lbs, so ditching the water cooled exhaust and other crap would place it in 6b territory. How good is it? Cat built a 636ci engine to do the same job as a 359ci 6b, that should tell you a lot about the intelligence in the design.

About that 3/4 ton spring bull****, it wont help. Those trucks could barely hold up a 440 or 6b, ball joints and bearings are not up to the task. Upgrade to late model axles, then enjoy having a frame with the rigidity of a pool noodle.

 

[andrewhpaul]

So you don't think a 4 cylinder would fit or the frame could withstand the weight?

 

[wolfcreek-steve]

So you don't think a 4 cylinder would fit or the frame could withstand the weight?

I'm with roachie, I wouldn't put anything heavier that a 4BT in a half ton of any make!

 

[wedgetail]

always thought 3208s and 3116s had a pretty mixed service life. Reading around them in fact people say to avoid at all costs, a bit like the 8.2 detroit and 555 cummins. They're certainly a 'throw away' engine. If I had to put a Cat in something like what you've got it would be a 3056 without a doubt, a very very nice motor - extremely well built, can be had 130hp (NA), 160, 180 and 210. Has liners, is straight 6 and same dimensions (including mounts) as a perkins 6354 (but that's because it's just the updated version )

Is the 3304 just a 3306 with two less cylinders? Cos that's way out of a pickup's league...

 

[andrewhpaul]

Do you have more info on this 3056? What's the weight? And other dimensions