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Here's the deal. I don't have the chassis side ECM plug. These are pictures of Matt's engine stuff. So, I need to figure out how to get one of these, how to order a new one, how to get a salvage one, I am open to ideas. Many people have offered to help me get one, but, so far, I have no plug. So, all you great brains, how can I get the chassis side plug and a pigtail harness that I can splice into? It is time to start my beast and I still don't have power to it! This is what it looks like and this is where it goes (Lower ECM plug connection):
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Did you have any luck with this?
Mine was damaged and I had to glue a couple of pins into it from another type of connector.
It works but a nice new one would be prefered.
 

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No progress yet.
I STILL NEED A CONNECTOR and PIGTAIL. bounce
I'd be happy to post something as soon as I get a solution.
 

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I might be able to help you out. I know you do not want to wait but I need to order my parts and I would have a spare ECU and all the wiring, i might have to steal some of the connectors off of the ends of the harness for the sensors though. I know that the one locking clip is broken though but as far as I remember it is in good condition.
 

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I might be able to help you out. I know you do not want to wait but I need to order my parts and I would have a spare ECU and all the wiring, i might have to steal some of the connectors off of the ends of the harness for the sensors though. I know that the one locking clip is broken though but as far as I remember it is in good condition.
How much waiting are we talking about here?
How soon will you be ordering parts?
What parts are you ordering?
Can I order a new harness with the connector I need? Who from? Cummins?
Do you have any part numbers?
Anything would help at this point. I am almost ready to rock and roll and start this beast. I am still fab'ing and welding on the intercooler piping.
Thanks!
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I looked for you on cummins quickserve and found stuff to repair that connector but not the whole prewired connector. My fellow cummins tech at work was telling about a place back east that can make up any kind of auto electrical connector found on vehicles, some of the examples he gave me of stuff he had done there made it sound pretty promising. I will get that info next week when I see him and send it to you.
 

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I looked for you on cummins quickserve and found stuff to repair that connector but not the whole prewired connector. My fellow cummins tech at work was telling about a place back east that can make up any kind of auto electrical connector found on vehicles, some of the examples he gave me of stuff he had done there made it sound pretty promising. I will get that info next week when I see him and send it to you.
I would also be interested in a pigtail. Mine is pretty screwed up but is working.
My ECM has no comunication to the Cam sensor and I have a good signal all the way to the ECM so I think its the ECM. It still took me 16,000km across the country and back this summer though.

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Here is the name and web address of the pigtail/harness company, www.aeromotive.us. You will need a good picture of the connector to order, they have a pretty good walk thru on the process and it can all be done online. Let the rest of us know if they can help.
 

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QUOTE=glenn715;217293]Here is the name and web address of the pigtail/harness company, www.aeromotive.us. [/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, these guys were no help.
I sent them a zillion pictures and they just emailed back and said they "do not service this connector".
Back to the drawing board!
:idea: I remembered that Chris Weakley at Rocky Mountain Cummins was an AWESOME resource. He still is!
Here is his contact information:

George "Chris" Weakley

Cummins Rocky Mountain LLC.
Direct 303-927-2243
Mobile 303-709-0008
Toll Free (800) 927-7201
[email protected]

The connector itself is Cummins PN 3164108. This is just the empty connector housing with no pins.
The black connector cover 3164106 snaps on the back side and the latch holds it in place.
The gasket is 3164162 to keep the water out.
The connector pins are ordered separately (The housing is empty with no pins).
The 3164121 is a package of 10 0.6mm pin socket pigtails.
The 3164117 is a package of 10 2.8mm flat pin socket pigtails.
Right now, I don't know how many pins of which number I might need.
See the attached Harness Repair Kit pictures for more details.
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3164108 $91.62 Connector
3164106 $23.68 Connector Shell
3164162 $39.90 Gasket (Obsolete)
3164121 $ 6.01 0.6mm Terminal with lead (1 each) ($432 for all 72)
3164117 $ 9.17 2.8mm Terminal with lead (1 each) ($156 for all 17)

There is room for 87 terminals in this connector.
That's over $744 for a fully populated connector!!! :eek::eek:

Anyone have a line on a USED connector assembly?

Please? :crybaby: Pretty please?:crybaby:

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i have an account with cummins with a discount the size of a municipality but i bet it is only like 20% off.
my isb has the flat metal ecu not ribbed like yours its from a non automotive application. now i am concerned i cant adjust my hp ever...
 

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This is the same ECM as used on some 6 cylinder engines?
Is it not easier to find a harness from a 6 cylinder?
What 6's uses this ECM (different programing)?
My ISB170 wiring diagram says 4 and 6 cylinder, I assume its not a standard Dodge install?
 

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3164108 $91.62 Connector
3164106 $23.68 Connector Shell
3164162 $39.90 Gasket (Obsolete)
3164121 $ 6.01 0.6mm Terminal with lead (1 each) ($432 for all 72)
3164117 $ 9.17 2.8mm Terminal with lead (1 each) ($156 for all 17)

There is room for 87 terminals in this connector.
That's over $744 for a fully populated connector!!! :eek::eek:

Anyone have a line on a USED connector assembly?

Please? :crybaby: Pretty please?:crybaby:

Gene
I saw the parts to repair the connector on quickserve but like you have found out the cost to make a complete connector from those parts is crazy.
 

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Why would you need a fully populated connector? I would think a dozen pins is all that's needed between TPS and power inputs.

You need to figure out the model of the connector and ask the manufacturer who distributes them if they won't sell direct. There aren't that many connector manufacturers.
 

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Why would you need a fully populated connector? I would think a dozen pins is all that's needed between TPS and power inputs. You need to figure out the model of the connector and ask the manufacturer who distributes them if they won't sell direct. There aren't that many connector manufacturers.
Finally, some more progress. :D
The English datasheet from Bosch is below.

Here are the Bosch P/Ns I need:
1 928 404 195 = Connector Body, 1 each ($77)
1 928 404 196 or 1 928 404 197 = Connector Shell, 1 each ($23)
1 928 404 555 = Zip Ties (Will buy my own)
1 928 498 003 = 0.6mm Gold contacts, Qty TBD ($2.43 each)
1 928 498 054 = 2.8mm Gold contacts, Qty TBD ($2.16 each)
1 928 300 599 = Seals, Qty TBD ($0.53 each)
1 928 300 601 = Plugs, Qty TBD ($0.53 each)

Fully populated = $370 or so :)

The closest supplier I could find:
Chief Enterprises
545 W. Lake Street
Elmhurst IL 60126
(630) 530-1224 ext. 219
http://store.chiefenterprises.com/

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I found better prices from IPW Parts:bounce
1 928 404 195 = Connector Body W-Seal $52
1 928 404 196/197 = Connector Shell $11
1 928 498 003 = 0.6mm Gold contacts $0.38
1 928 498 054 = 2.8mm Gold contacts $1.52
1 928 300 599 = Seals $0.81
1 928 300 601 = Plugs $0.95
1 928 404 555 = Zip Ties

I just ordered the connector parts from IPW.
Fully populated was about $263 including shipping.:D
Of course, you don't have to fully populate it, so your mileage might vary!

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I found better prices from IPW Parts:bounce
1 928 404 195 = Connector Body W-Seal $52
1 928 404 196/197 = Connector Shell $11
1 928 498 003 = 0.6mm Gold contacts $0.38
1 928 498 054 = 2.8mm Gold contacts $1.52
1 928 300 599 = Seals $0.81
1 928 300 601 = Plugs $0.95
1 928 404 555 = Zip Ties

I just ordered the connector parts from IPW.
Fully populated was about $263 including shipping.:D
Of course, you don't have to fully populate it, so your mileage might vary!

IPW Parts
(800) 288-8018
http://www.ipwparts.com/
Cool. :)

Do they have any blanking plugs for those (for the pins you don't populate)?
 

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Cool. :) Do they have any blanking plugs for those (for the pins you don't populate)?
Yes, the plugs are the 1-928-300-601. IPW wanted more for these than Chief.
 
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