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In a sea of Detroit diesels here these days I need help identifying this Perkins ??
Recently buying a truck with a ZB Mazda diesel (basically a Perkins 6247) and was given a second engine as a spare which is not the same but similar.

The ZB Mazda / Perkins 6247 has 6 glow plugs along the head as its an indirect injection diesel where as the spare engine has its pre heater in the inlet manifold. Both have a water log manifold along the right hand side above the exhaust manifold.
Here's a couple of pictures for reference. Would like to know what this second engine is !

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You sure that is not a variation of the 6.247? The valve cover on your unknown is the same as one found on a 6.247 test fitted to an IHC Scout back in 1974. The intake manifold was different but that engine also was used in the Ford F100 in Australia in the late 1970's to early 1980's. The Mazda version was called the T4100.
 

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You sure that is not a variation of the 6.247? The valve cover on your unknown is the same as one found on a 6.247 test fitted to an IHC Scout back in 1974. The intake manifold was different but that engine also was used in the Ford F100 in Australia in the late 1970's to early 1980's. The Mazda version was called the T4100.
Yep, thanks mate, I found the reference with Mazda / Perkins diesels I had archived on my computer.
Your right it is a Perkins 6247 (Mazda ZB) I had forgotten there were 2 kinds an early and a late version. The late has the 6 glow plugs in the head and a 2 piece sump while the early E4100 is a single glow wire in the inlet manifold and a 1 piece sump.
The truck is a 86 Ford Trader which are a re badged Mazda T4100. Ford Australia did have a share deal with Mazda at the time.

Here's my reference from a website..... Thanks for the help.

Mazda to Perkins
S2 - Perkins 4-135
XA - Perkins 4-154
XB - Perkins 4-165
HA - Perkins 4-182
ZB - T4100 Perkins 6-247 2 piece sump – 6 glow plugs
ZB - E4100 Perkins 6-247 1 piece sump – 1 glow plug in the lnlet manifold

ZC - Perkins 6-335 Precombustion engine looks like a 354 perkins
YA – 4cyl – perkins 4-154
YA – 6cyl – 6-231
XC - 6cyl 6-335 - precombustion engine ( Japanese only )
 
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I'm curious. Is that a glow plug in the intake or a thermostart unit. Perkins used those quite a lot. It has a small fuel reservoir feeding the plug which ignited fuel in the intake to create the heat. Pretty sure that's what you have there because there is a fuel line and a 12 volt connection to that plug.
 

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I'm curious. Is that a glow plug in the intake or a thermostart unit. Perkins used those quite a lot. It has a small fuel reservoir feeding the plug which ignited fuel in the intake to create the heat. Pretty sure that's what you have there because there is a fuel line and a 12 volt connection to that plug.
Yes possibly is, I'll have a better look when I pick it up. I have other Ford Traders a 1989, 1990, ( 1991 Mazda T3500 ) and 1992 model. They are all 3.5 SL Mazda diesels (Perkins) and all use a inlet wire pre heat system.
 

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Thanks for that info, mate.
Managed to drag it home today. Heavy steel sump sat nice and flat on the tray truck without to much hassle.

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