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The complete Allison 1000/2000/2400 info and swap guide thread

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I decided to start a thread devoted to this trans for a couple reasons. First off, there is a LOT, and I mean a LOT of misinformation out there. Second, there is little useful info for some basic specifications on these transmissions. Finally, a lot of guys think they are too complicated or too expensive, when in fact they are no more complicated or expensive than, say, a 4L80E or 48RE that is built to do the same thing. Since I have decided to swap a 1000 into my truck I have been heavily researching all the details. While I still don't have all the answers I want, I do have most that I need, and I figured why not consolidate this information somewhere to help out other folks who contemplate this swap. I think a lot of folks get turned off of an Ally swap simply because the information is sporadic and often contradictory.

With that said, my goal for this thread is to include as much FACTUAL INFORMATION as possible. If info is prefaced by "I think", "Supposedly", "I heard", "My friend said", etc. I don't consider it factual. I don't want a thread full of anecdotal information, but rather facts that people can use to make an informed decision and help them successfully complete a swap. ;) With that said, including unconfirmed info and opinions is fine as long as it is presented as such.

Also, when adding any information, make sure to specify what generation of Allison it belongs to. There is the pre-2004 5 speed, 04-05 5 speed, and 06-up 6 speed, with various revisions among the years. Try to be as specific as possible.

Anyway, with that said I will start with some basic info about the 1000/2000/2400 series.

GENERAL INFORMATION

The Allison 1000/2000/2400 series are torque converter driven, fully automatic transmissions with 5 or 6 forward speeds. 5th and 6th are overdrive gears, and the overall ratios are dependent on model. All have a neutral and reverse gear as well, and the 1000 and 2400 series have a park position which actuates an integral park pawl. The basic max ratings for this series of transmission is 300HP, 550lb-ft input torque without SEM/torque management, 620lb-ft input torque with SEM/torque management, and 850lb-ft turbine torque. These are the ratings published by Allison for MD on-road use. As we know, the ratings for GM pickups with the DMax are higher, but the GVW and duty cycle of a pickup are less than a Md truck, so Allison rates the trans conservatively. No doubt the software in the TCM has a huge impact on the amount of power the trans can really take. GVW and GCW ratings of the trans depends mainly on whether the unit has a park pawl (units with park pawl are rated lower). GVW varies from 19,500lbs for the 1000 series to 33,000lbs for units without park. GCW ranges from 26,000lbs to 33,000lbs. Complete ratings and specs can be found here.

The gear ratios for the various models are as follows:

..........1000..........2000/2400

  • 1st.....3.10...........3.51
  • 2nd....1.81...........1.90
  • 3rd.....1.41...........1.44
  • 4th.....1.00...........1.00
  • 5th.....0.71...........0.74
  • 6th.....0.61...........0.64 (06-up models only)
  • Rev.....4.49...........5.09

INTERNAL OPERATION

Internally, the transmissions have three planetary gear sets controlled by 5 sets of clutches, labeled C1-C5. 2 clutch packs (C1-C2) are rotating, and transfer input torque to certain elements in the planetary sets, while the remaining 3 sets (c3-C5) are stationary and lock each of the ring gears and their coupled components to the case when engaged. These transmissions contain no bands, sprags, or roller clutches - all gear changes are accomplished by direct clutch-to-clutch changes. Clutch engagements for each gear are as follows:

.............C1........C2........C3........C4........C5

  • Park..........................................................*
  • Rev.........................................................
  • Neu..........................................................*
  • 1st..........................................................
  • 2nd........................................................
  • 3rd.........................................................
  • 4th.........................................................
  • 5th.........................................................
  • 6th......................................................... (06-up models only)

VALVE BODY AND TRANSMISSION ELECTRICAL

Shifting is controlled electronically. The valve body contains 6 (03-earlier) or 7 (04-up) solenoids which control all functions. Solenoids A and B are "trim" solenoids that regulate the pressure on the oncoming and off-going clutches. both are pressure proportional to current (PPC) solenoids which operate at a frequency of 1KHz. Solenoid A is normally closed, providing full line pressure at zero current and zero pressure at 100% current. Solenoid B is normally open and provides zero pressure at zero current and full line pressure at 100% current. Solenoid A controls the oncoming and applied clutches while B controls the off-going clutch. In the event of a power or TCM failure solenoid, A will default to full pressure while B defaults to zero pressure, giving a limp-home capability. 04-up valve bodies incorporate a G solenoid which reduces the main line pressure by approximately 100psi during idle and low load operation, reducing heat generation. The F solenoid controls TCC apply and release. On 05-earlier models this is a PWM solenoid operating at 100Hz, while 06-up use a PPC solenoid operating at 1KHz.

Shifting is controlled by 3 normally closed solenoids, C, D, and E. These solenoids are strictly binary, applying either full line pressure or exhaust to its associated spool valve. The logical combination of these 3 valves determines which clutches are applied. Contrary to what some believe, the solenoids do not directly operate the clutches. The spools and solenoids are arranged so that each shift change will exhaust the off-going clutch via the solenoid B path while applying pressure to the oncoming clutch via the solenoid A pressure. Because of this, shifts must be sequential - the transmission will not skip gears when upshifting or downshifting. It also means that it is not possible to apply random sets of clutches, although it is possible that the unused solenoid combinations could create a non-valid clutch condition (i.e. C2 and C5 applied) which would create a lockup. There have been anecdotes of aftermarket controllers applying all 5 clutch packs while at speed, but I don't believe it is possible to apply more than 2 clutches with the arrangement of valving in the VB. That is not confirmed, however...

Here are the solenoid combos for the various gears:

.............C...........D...........E
  • Park.............................*
  • Rev................................
  • Neu..............................*
  • 1st.....................*.............
  • 2nd.................................. (If power is lost or TCM is inoperative, this is the limp mode gear)
  • 3rd.......*..........................
  • 4th.................................
  • 5th...................................*
  • 6th ???????????????????? (Don't have info for this....)

The VB also contains a pressure switch assembly which gives feedback to the TCM on which solenoids are engaged. The PSA also houses the trans temp sensor, which is a negative temperature coefficient thermistor. All VB electricals are passed through the case using a standard GM 20-pin connector, identical to the one used on the late 4l60Es and 4L80Es. Looking at the connector in the trans, starting with the upper left and working left to right, top to bottom, the pins are labeled A-W, with the letters I, O, and Q not used. The pin assignments and color codes of the INTERNAL wiring harness for 5-speed models are as follows:

  • A - Dk Green - Shift Solenoid C
  • B - Orange/Black - Shift Solenoid D
  • C - Pink - Power to shift solenoids C, D, and E
  • D - Lt Green - PSA terminal A
  • E - Red - PSA terminal C
  • F - Blue - PSa terminal B
  • G - Orange - PSA terminal E
  • H - Black - PSA terminal F
  • J - Brown - TCC solenoid F
  • K - Tan - PSA terminal D
  • L - Red/Black - Trim Solenoid A
  • M - Lt Blue - Trim Solenoid A
  • N - Gray - Trim Solenoid B
  • P - Purple - Trim Solenoid B
  • R - ????? - Line Pressure Solenoid G (04-up only)
  • S - Black - TCC Solenoid F
  • T - Tan - PSA terminal F
  • U - Green - IC to terminal V
  • V - Green - IC to terminal U
  • W - Black/Tan - Shift Solenoid E

For 6-speed models, the internal connections are as follows (no color codes - sorry:

  • A - Shift solenoid C
  • B - Shift solenoid D
  • C - Shift solenoid E
  • D - PSA terminal A
  • E - PSA terminal C
  • F - PSA terminal B
  • G - PSA terminal E
  • H - PSA terminal F, IMS terminal F
  • J - TCC solenoid F
  • K - PSA terminal D
  • L - Trim solenoid A, TCC solenoid F, main pressure solenoid G
  • M - Trim solenoid A
  • N - Trim solenoid B, shift solenoids C, D, and E
  • P - Trim solenoid B
  • R - IMS terminal A
  • S - Main pressure solenoid G
  • T - IMS terminal E
  • U - IMS terminal D
  • V - IMS terminal C
  • W - IMS terminal B

Other electrical components include 3 (05-earlier GM apps) or 2 (06-up GM apps) variable reluctance speed sensors and an NSBU (Neutral Start back-Up) switch (05-earlier) or IMS (Internal Mode Switch - 06-up). The first speed sensor is in the bell housing and gets its signal from the pump vane ribs in the converter housing. On 6-speed GM apps, the bell housing speed sensor is deleted, and the TCM instead gets engine speed information from the ECM via the GMLAN bus. The second sensor is the turbine speed sensor in the main housing, and pics up off of either the PTO gear or a stamped steel tone ring that replaces the PTO gear in units without a PTO option. Finally, 2WD transmissions have an output speed sensor in the output housing that reads off of a 40-tooth tone ring on the output shaft. 4WD models use the speed sensor and 40 tooth tone ring in the transfer case tail housing. 4WD models have a switch input to notify the TCM that 4Lo mode is engaged, and the TCM makes appropriate compensation for the TC low gear ratio.

The NSBU switch on the 01-02 5 speeds is essentially identical to that used on the 4L60Es. There are 2 receptacles on the NSBU. The 4-pin gives the TCM information regarding the gear selected, while the 7-pin accesses switches are used for P-N starter lockout and backup lights. The 4-pin receptacle's pins are marked A, B, C, and D. Depending on the shift position selected, a combination of 2 of these pins will be grounded. Here's the table, with the grounded pins marked with an asterisk:

.............A...........B...........C.........D
  • P.................................................
  • R................................................
  • N...............................................
  • D................................................
  • 3...................................................
  • 2................................................
  • 1...............................................

Since only 2 terminals or no terminals (in the case of 3rd) are valid combinations, the TCM can sometimes determine if there is a wiring or switch malfunction. The standard wiring color codes and their connection to the TCM J2 connector for the 4-pin receptacle are as follows:

  • A - Blue - pin 5
  • B - Gray - pin 7
  • C - White - pin 8
  • D - Yellow - pin 6

NOTE: On GM pickups, these wires go to the ECM, which then buffers and feeds them to the TCM. On stand-alone apps, they will be wired directly to the TCM. This is a helpful bit of info for those modding a GM pickup harness ;)

The 7-pin connector on the NSBU has pins labeled A-G, and their corresponding wire colors and assignments are as follows:

  • A - Not used
  • B - Tan - Park Accessory
  • C - Blue - Rev/Park Accessory fuse
  • D - Green - TCM analog ground (TCM J2 connector, pin 20)
  • E - Yellow - Park/neutral start battery feed
  • F - Pink - backup lamps
  • G - Orange - Starter relay

03-05 models used a very similar NSBU switch assembly, except they have a single connector that contains all the pins, rather than 2 separate connectors.

06-up 6-speed transmissions no longer use an external NSBU switch. The external switches were prone to failure caused by internal corrosion due to exposure to water. The park and reverse accessory and backup lamp switch functions were moved to the column. Park/neutral and gear selector position info on these transmissions is done with an internal mode switch (IMS) mounted on the rooster comb inside the transmission. Its functions are brought out through the 20-pin connector on the transmission (see above). The F pin on the IMS is common, and depending on position one or more of the remaining pins will be switched to the F pin. Pin A is connected to the ECM, and is used to notify it that the transmission is in either park or neutral, thus allowing the engine to be cranked. The final 4 (B-E) are connected directly to the TCM and tell it what range is selected, NOTE; On GM trucks, the PRNDL is labeled P-R-N-D-M-1, with only those 6 positions available via the column shifter. However, the transmission itself has 7 positions internally - the last position is simply not used in GM vehicles, and the travel is limited in the column shifter so a GM vehicle cannot physically shift into the last position. However, a DIY shifter setup WILL be able to shift into that last position unless it is likewise limited (i.e. using a 3-speed floor shifter rather than a 4-speed floor shifter).

Note that these pin assignments are those of the switch itself, NOT the 20-pin external connector. Refer to the external pinout description above for the 6-speed to find the external pins connected to these internal pins.

............A............B............C............D............E
  • P....................................*.............................
  • R..................................................................
  • N.................................................*...............
  • D..................................................................
  • 3...............................................................
  • 2..................................................................
  • 1..................................................................

Information continued in later posts.
 
#504 ·
Sorry I can't help out on your setup.I'v only been working on the 6sp stuff.

Dale
 
#507 ·
Thanks Jim. I see you're in Canada. Who flashed your TCM! Around here nobody will touch it but put to factory spec to the VIN of the truck it came from. The Allison TPS is out. Allison want's 700 plus tax and that's a no go. I have gotten the voltages that allison is looking for at idle up to wot. I'm going to check what volt range the cable tps that's on the trucks 5.8l and see if I can use it. I don't have a check transmission light in the truck and was going to run as long as it shifts decent but the lockup is a must.

Thanks for the pin numbers. I can only find that for the 4th gen. 2002 is 3rd gen as I understand.

OH and yes I do remember reading that you need to tell the tcm that it will be getting an analog tps signal. But again I can't find anybody around that will play with them.
 
#509 ·
Thanks Jim. I see you're in Canada. Who flashed your TCM! Around here nobody will touch it but put to factory spec to the VIN of the truck it came from.
I got "Harper Detroit Diesel Allison" in Toronto to do it.

I was hoping to talk to someone that knew something but it's the kind of place where you only get to talk to a clerk behind a desk. Anyway, I asked them to flash it with a "dyno program" and apparently, that's what they did. It only took a few minutes and I did get to talk to the guy that brought the TCM back out from the shop. He was curious about what I was trying to do. I said I was trying to put a 2000 Allison behind a mechanical engine. He though about it for a second and said,,, it might work, but if it didn't they MIGHT be able to install a different program that would work. One of these days when I get more time I might bring the truck down there and see if they can check it out. As I said, it's shifting fine except that the shift points are just a little higher than they need to be and I don't think the lookup is working yet. I've only taken it for a couple of short test drives so far.
In an earlier post I mistakenly said I had a 1000 series, it's actually a 2000 but I think the electronics are the same either way. My transmission came from a wrecking yard and they threw in a TCM from a different truck.
 
#508 ·
I have a couple of friends that are using a dodge TPS instead of the Allison TPS.

Dale
 
#512 ·
That might be where I got the problem. It might be the GM that Allison dosen't want to play with. Still. Just got my adapter plate etc from destroked and getting ready to put together. Yep familiar with Navistar. Got the same in our service truck. Will be watching for your posts on your progress. Thx.
 
#513 ·
I was cruising through some wiring diagrams today at work for the IC school bus I was working on and came across lots of allison to tcm wiring stuff. If anybody needs a diagram for an allison thats mated to any IC engine, I might could hook you up, would need the year and chassis model.

Mike
 
#517 ·
I was curious with the build date with my trans. It has 00624 so is that 2000 june 24?? Or 2006 24th week?
 
#521 ·
What is the reason for wanting to make a 6sp vb to 5sp

Dale
 
#522 ·
Simplifying my install. I have an 06 and the 5 spd vb are more expensive than what I have into my tranny swap project. Just looking for options vs this extensive work being done to make the 6 spds work. Not being very computer savvy the 5 spd is pushing my electronics knowledge. Plus I'd like to keep this build using as many "off the shelf parts as possible for ease of repair purposes.


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#524 ·
Not too much speed. Just wondering if an existing 6 speed valve body can be outfitted like a 5 speed valve body. In other words put 3rd gen electronics in a valve body out of 4th gen? Are the later 3rd gen valve bodies interchangeable with 4th gen valve bodies? Electronics aside, what are the differences between the valve bodies the throughout the production years?


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#525 ·
New gen Allison 6 speeds --- Anyone tried one yet?

I am still early in the build stage but got the word from Stewart & Stevenson that the newest double OD 6 speeds can be mated to a 4bt and work with nothing more than a TPS. Makes for a much simpler install than all the wiring & programming needed for earlier units. I bought a new 2200MH and I'm in the process of installing the engine/tranny package right now and really hoping they know their beans. Still looking for a complete shifter but have a couple of leads. The tranny is so new I haven't had any luck sourcing the shifter at wrecking yards...so far.

Just curious if anyone else is trodding this new ground.
 
#526 ·
I have an 06 chevy duramax six speed behind a 12 valve that I am building but I'm not far enough on the build that I am ready for a controller yet. I am interested in seeing what you come up with. The tap shift feature is what I am most interested in having function but it seems like its a bunch of work using the gm programming to get it to work. It seems the allison medium duty system works ok and is simpler to get up and running but it lacks the tap shift feature and doesnt allow for any tuning.
 
#528 ·
Great new we got the problems figured out with the harsh 4 to 3 closed throttle downshift and smoothed out the rest of the upshifts also.Pretty much everyone ws telling me that it was my tuning that I was doing.So we tried another TCM from a medium duty 6 speed did the exactly the same problems.Friday I put a stock VB in replacement of mine.Saturday took the truck out for test drive.i felt like I have won the lottery trans shifted just like if I was driving a duramax smooth on all upshifts and down shifts like in tow haul because the torque converter looks up in 2nd gear.each time it down shift was perfect.
We found the problem with my VB one of the shift kit valves the ball wasn't in the valve.It was in the valvebody port just below the valve got everything put back in its place and back in the trans.Test drove it yesterday all shift great.Mine shifts are alittle firmer and I like that better.I still don't have TH but at this point don't really care tap shift working good to.
I would definitely recommend the Allison for transmission swap.

Dale
 
#529 ·
Glad to hear it Dale!
 
#530 ·
How have you been.Glad see your back.My truck is really enjoyable to drive now.Trans is more responsive to small adjustments to tuning.I can't believe how much quicker the Allison as made the truck run.Have been having some fun with other trucks finally.
now I need to find out why I can't get TH.The switch is working.Wiring is good good signal to bcm.Got the ignition wire hooked to BCM still no difference.
I have towed our 32ft box trailer loaded with pulling truck and tow around rig grossing 24.000lb âž• the way I have Drive mode tuned I don't really need TH and tapshift works sweet so TH isn't on my top of the list of to do's.Open to all suggestions.Just remembered the BCM is from a Duramax not a 8.1.So does it need to be flashed for 8.1?


Dale
 
#534 ·
I'm guessing that is the case. That, or the BCM needs some other input...
 
#532 ·
Hello eveybody! I got a 73 Travco Rv that I am going to fit a 96 BT-6 in. This thread made me take the step to get a 2100 MH
six speed from Ebay with a push button shifter and trans ECM.This came from a workhorse 8,1 gas pusher setup.I am not
shure what year model it is as it on a boat to make it here to Sweden. As I understand from these posts I will basicly need a
TPS? What more do I need?
Thanks for a great thread.
 
#535 ·
I drew up a wiring diagram of all the components and the circuits between them and have a question. My 06 duramax 6 speed has a 20 pin plugin and the connector that plugs into the trans is labeled A through T. On post # 50 is a wiring diagram for a 6 speed trans and on the tcm connector it lists #34 terminal going to trans W, #53 to trans U, and #73 to trans V. Since i dont have those pins on my 20 pin connector, do they need to be hooked up anywhere? The wiring diagram says they go to IMS A, B, P.

Mike
 
#536 ·
I have never seen a 20 pin connector labeled A through T. They have all been A through W, with I, O, and Q omitted, like this:

__A_B_C_D__
E_F_G_H_J_K
L_M_N_P_R_S
__T_U_V_W__
 
#537 ·
Hmm, my letters were very hard to read, I was finally able to make out the top row of letters and from there I "ASS" umed I knew the lettering on the rest of them. I had 3 power reading glasses and a nice bright light and still had a hard time identifying them. Thanks for the quick reply!! Now I can go back and fix my mistake.

Mike
 
#538 ·
Question for MaxPF. Found an Allison 2000 trans. Will it work for my application?

I have a 1995 Chevy 3500HD with the 4L80E trans with drum bake. This truck came with the 6.5 diesel and 4.63 Dana 80 rear end. I want to repower it with a 12 valve Cummins and an Allison trans. I have found an Allison out of a 2001 GMC 6500 that was coupled to a Cat 3126 diesel. I need a trans with the drum brake on it and this does. Would this be a good option? It has an SAE bell housing although I am unsure which one. Can the Allison handle towing in overdrive in a truck that continually grosses about 30K pounds? If so, would I be better finding a 6 speed or am I looking at a rear gear change? Is the 5 speed any easier integrating into my truck electronic wise that a 6 speed? I have so many questions, I wish I could talk to you! Thank you for your reply!
 
#551 ·
I have a 1995 Chevy 3500HD with the 4L80E trans with drum bake. This truck came with the 6.5 diesel and 4.63 Dana 80 rear end. I want to repower it with a 12 valve Cummins and an Allison trans. I have found an Allison out of a 2001 GMC 6500 that was coupled to a Cat 3126 diesel. I need a trans with the drum brake on it and this does. Would this be a good option? It has an SAE bell housing although I am unsure which one. Can the Allison handle towing in overdrive in a truck that continually grosses about 30K pounds? If so, would I be better finding a 6 speed or am I looking at a rear gear change? Is the 5 speed any easier integrating into my truck electronic wise that a 6 speed? I have so many questions, I wish I could talk to you! Thank you for your reply!
Allison makes a lot of different models. Is it a 1000, 2000, 2500, 3000? 3000 and bigger are too big for your truck. The 1000, 2000, 2500s are all the same case, but different options (like driveline brakes) and gear ratios. The 1000, 2000, and 2500s can be had with either SAE #2 or SAE #3 bellhousings. SAE #2 will never fit in your truck. SAE #3 will, but firewall mods and/or more body lift may be needed (which I'm assuming you don't have a problem with if you're contemplating a Cummins/Ally swap ;) ) An Ally with the GM bell will be an easy fit, but it requires $1400 worth of adapters from Destroked. Keep in mind that replacement bells (except for the GM bells) are around $500 from Allison, so if you find a smoking deal on a trans but it has the wrong bellhousing you could simply buy the one you want and swap it. Ditto for the tail housings. The biggest deal for a good Ally core is that the planetaries and input drum is in good shape, because those are the real spendy parts.

Allsions do not have GCW limitations in OD. Tnhey can tow their max rated GVW in any gear, continuously. This is thanks to big honkin' gear sets and tons of lube flow. Just make sure you have an ample cooler.

Integration into the electronics is about the same with either a 5 speed or a 6 speed. 5 speeds often were run with analog TPS inputs, while 6 speeds seldom were. I tend to separate TCMs (whether 5 speed or 6 speed) into two categories: those with GM OSes, and those with MD OSes. The GM OSes have the advantage that anyone with EFILive (or possibly HP Tuners - not sure what TCMs HPT tunes) can tune the tables to their hearts content. They also have features like Tow/Haul and Tap Shift (some MD Oses allow these modes as well), and generally much nicer shifting characteristics. On the flip side, they are limited on TPS input modes, ESPEC IALLY 6 speed DMAX TCMs. This is why we use the CAT TPS, which sens out a PWM signal, and we can only use the 8.1 TCM OS on the 6 speeds. A CAN interface module would solve all our woes. Electronically it is easy to build (I already have a preliminary design). It's figuring out GMs CAN packets that would tike time and money to solve. Such a module would allow use of the 2010-up Ally, which would be very cool since they have variable line pressure functionality that would improve fuel economy even further. But I digress...

MEdium duty OSes are an Allison-only deal. On the plus side certain MD OSes allow analog TPS inputs which significantly simplify throttle inputs. As a rule, a MD OS always shifts like a GM OS in T/H mode. That is, when you let off the throttle and coast, it will downshift as appropriate to give engine braking. This can be annoying when you are driving around unloaded. Some MD OSes have "alternate shift schedule" capability which is the same as the T/H functionality on a GM OS. Some even have Tap Shift features. The biggest drawback is that they require Allison DOC software to modify parameters. The issue here is that Allison shops won't touch a swap of any kind. This leaves a couple guys in the US that will mod MD parameters. So , basically it is really inconvenient.

The short answer is: I reccommend a TCM with a GM OS. Either a 5 or 6 speed is fine for you (6 speeds lock out 6th gear in T/H mode, making it a 5 speed anyway).

Anybody know how to get a speed signal from pin 25 on an allison MD tcm?? I've tried every way I can figure, and it just seems dead. Also EFI live will not calibrate my TCM it says TCU Map not supported, so I'm kinda in the dark about what's going on inside and what options may or may not be enabled. Still working on getting my copy of Allison DOC working.
Try pin 18 for a speedo output. That is the pin GM TCMs use, and Id bet its alive on the MD units as well.

As kind of an update for the Caterpillar TPS situation on the two sensors I posted part numbers for. The original part number sensor I posted is a 2661466 and costs around $100, the connector for this style sensor is a 1552260 and takes 3 9W0844 pins that crimp onto your wires and insert into the connector. This sensor rotates the same direction as the VE rotary pump throttle shaft does when its mounted on top of that shaft, the same way Dodge mounted them on automatic equiped diesel trucks of the 89-93 vintage.
The cheaper sensor I posted 2691983 costs about $40, the connector for this style sensor is a 2304013 and takes 3 9W0844 pins that crimp onto your wires and inserts into the connector. This sensor rotates OPPOSITE the direction of the pump shaft, which means you can't mount it on the pump like the Dodge trucks did, but you can mount it on the pedal or throttle linkage in the appropriate place.
Hope this helps out you guys, I've had several inquiries about plugs for these sensors, I should have posted the part numbers for the connectors when I put up the sensor numbers.
On the voltage regulation side of things for the output of these sensors, there's a cheap and easy alternative available from Radio Shack. Their part number 276-1770 is for a LM7805C transistor rated at 1 amp. It has 3 legs to be wired as follows, Vin is wired to the output of the TPS (signal wire), ground pin goes to ground (or tie into ground wire from the TPS), and the Vout pin would then go to the TPS input on the TCM. This little transistor is a 5 volt regulator in one package, easy hook up, costs about $1.99, compact enough to mount anywhere, rated to more than 3 times actual current draw of the TPS (plenty of safety). -Chuck
I don't think you need a voltage regulator. I ran the one you sent me for days on 14.4V to test it. It worked fine, and put out an 8V signal as long as the power voltage was above 8V.

Cool info on the TPS sensors! I used a 97 Cummins tps on mine, just the potentiometer type ( I am using a medium duty A50 TCU so it works). The throttle shaft on my detroit turns very little, maybe 20 deg, and I wanted to mount the sensor on top of it. So what I did was power it with 12v instead of 5v to give it a quicker voltage rise to rotation ratio, but that raised the idle output to about 30% in EFI. so I added a 1.2V zener to drop the voltage coming out of the TPS to 0 at idle, and now I have a perfect 0 to 100% sweep in EFI with the range of motion I have on my throttle shaft. My allsion man also told me the the inputs are safe to a nominal 12v, so I didn't add a clamping diode, but you could.
The clamp diode wasn't intended to protect the TCM. It was to keep the TCM's internal pull-up from applying 12V to the output of the TPS.

I joined today, and I am sure that this has been asked before, and answered repeatedly, but I cant find the answer. So here it goes- I have a 1979 K-30 w/ 454 and sm465. I have all the power I could ever need, but I cant seem to keep gas in the tank. I routinely get 5-8 mpg. So I want a 12v Cummins, and want the Allison 1000. I have 2 questions:

1.) I saw at the beginning of the thread on t-cases, basically there is no hope of adapting a Chevy np205 to the Allison. Is this correct?
Not correct at all. There are a few different ways. Figure 8 205s are a problem child, however. You either need the adapter Dodge used to mare a 205 to the Getrag in their first gen Cummins trucks and redrill a couple holes (good luck - they're unobtanium unless you find a case with one on it, which themselves are about as common as hen's teeth), or have someone machine a custom adapter. You would also need the 29 spline Dodge input (which would require boring your case - or use the Dodge case) and coupling sleeve. Round pattern 205s are somewhat easier, but there you still need a spacer and the Dodge input/sleeve combo. Or a spacer, long 32 spline input, and 32 spline output shaft for the Ally (which has to be custom machined). Or a short 32 spline input, 32 spline output for the Ally, and some notching of the Ally;s output flange to clear the shift rail. Or run a 29 to 31 spline spud shaft. spacer, and 31 spline Ford input. All of this was spelled out in post 24 of this thread.

2.) I want to have the gear selector for the Allison work off of a column shift, is that a possibility, or would I have to get the aftermarket floor shift? Hoping to tie it in to the column, I would like to keep this truck looking as original as possible. Even if it costs more...

Any help would be great. I have seen conversions of similar year models, but they used the floor shifter. Just want as much info as possible before I get too deep and find I went in the wrong direction to start off with...
You could keep the column shift, but would probably have to play with the ratio of the lever on the trans to get full movement. And you would also have to re-letter the gear indicator to rean P R N 6 4 2 1.
The rotation of the Ally shift lever is the same as any other GM trans. With a 6 speed you would have P-R-N-D-M-1. 5 speeds are P-R-N-D-3-2-1. Note that 6 speeds internally have the 7th detent, but it is not a valid mode, so the shifter need to be physically prevented from moving into the 7th detent.

I don't know of any other shops to recommend, but you send me your allison output shaft and np205 input, and I'll mechine the alli output to match. If you don't have a alli yet, just send your np205 input and I can machine one of my outputs here, and send you the tail housing and output ready to go if you will send me your stock one when you get it.
The 10 spline input is a known failure point even behind weak gas engines. You would NEVER want to use it behind a Cummins. He needs to run either the stock Ally 29 spline with the Dodge input/coupler sleeve combo in the 205, or respline the Ally output to 32 spline and run a 32 spline input in the 205. Or the 29-31 spline spud shaft and a 31 spline 205 input. No other 205 input will be durable enough behind a Cummins.

http://www.trailtechfab.com/gallery/main.php This guy is who I got my adapter from to bolt a Dodge 205 onto the Allison. I actually used a figure 8 205 to Getrag 360 adapter since the factory adapter on my 205 (came off a Getrag) would bolt to the Allison, but was clocked flat. He sends you all three parts of the adapter and you put it together how you want and weld it solid. Since it's the same dimensions as the factory adapter, all spline engagements are the same. 4X4 Allison has 29 spline output, same as Dodge 205 input. Or you can change it to whatever you want. Mine ended up being an expensive clocking ring, but I'm happy with the result. -Chuck
Add that to the options in post 24 ;) Keep in mind that the fig. 8 GM cases use a small input bearing that won't fit the Dodge 29 spline input shafts (nor will it fit the 32 or 31 spline inputs). Small-bearing cases can be bored to accept a large bearing by any competent machine shop. Or, find a case that already accepts the large bearing (i.e. from behind a TH400 with the 32 spline input).

esowell337~howards conversions manufactures everything needed to bolt up a dodge np205 TC to a allison tranny...
Not that I saw. They have an adapter to bolt a Dodge 241 to an Allison. In theory that shoudl work for a Dodge 205 that has the Getrag adapter on it, but I'm not 100% on that.
 
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