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The complete Allison 1000/2000/2400 info and swap guide thread

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I decided to start a thread devoted to this trans for a couple reasons. First off, there is a LOT, and I mean a LOT of misinformation out there. Second, there is little useful info for some basic specifications on these transmissions. Finally, a lot of guys think they are too complicated or too expensive, when in fact they are no more complicated or expensive than, say, a 4L80E or 48RE that is built to do the same thing. Since I have decided to swap a 1000 into my truck I have been heavily researching all the details. While I still don't have all the answers I want, I do have most that I need, and I figured why not consolidate this information somewhere to help out other folks who contemplate this swap. I think a lot of folks get turned off of an Ally swap simply because the information is sporadic and often contradictory.

With that said, my goal for this thread is to include as much FACTUAL INFORMATION as possible. If info is prefaced by "I think", "Supposedly", "I heard", "My friend said", etc. I don't consider it factual. I don't want a thread full of anecdotal information, but rather facts that people can use to make an informed decision and help them successfully complete a swap. ;) With that said, including unconfirmed info and opinions is fine as long as it is presented as such.

Also, when adding any information, make sure to specify what generation of Allison it belongs to. There is the pre-2004 5 speed, 04-05 5 speed, and 06-up 6 speed, with various revisions among the years. Try to be as specific as possible.

Anyway, with that said I will start with some basic info about the 1000/2000/2400 series.

GENERAL INFORMATION

The Allison 1000/2000/2400 series are torque converter driven, fully automatic transmissions with 5 or 6 forward speeds. 5th and 6th are overdrive gears, and the overall ratios are dependent on model. All have a neutral and reverse gear as well, and the 1000 and 2400 series have a park position which actuates an integral park pawl. The basic max ratings for this series of transmission is 300HP, 550lb-ft input torque without SEM/torque management, 620lb-ft input torque with SEM/torque management, and 850lb-ft turbine torque. These are the ratings published by Allison for MD on-road use. As we know, the ratings for GM pickups with the DMax are higher, but the GVW and duty cycle of a pickup are less than a Md truck, so Allison rates the trans conservatively. No doubt the software in the TCM has a huge impact on the amount of power the trans can really take. GVW and GCW ratings of the trans depends mainly on whether the unit has a park pawl (units with park pawl are rated lower). GVW varies from 19,500lbs for the 1000 series to 33,000lbs for units without park. GCW ranges from 26,000lbs to 33,000lbs. Complete ratings and specs can be found here.

The gear ratios for the various models are as follows:

..........1000..........2000/2400

  • 1st.....3.10...........3.51
  • 2nd....1.81...........1.90
  • 3rd.....1.41...........1.44
  • 4th.....1.00...........1.00
  • 5th.....0.71...........0.74
  • 6th.....0.61...........0.64 (06-up models only)
  • Rev.....4.49...........5.09

INTERNAL OPERATION

Internally, the transmissions have three planetary gear sets controlled by 5 sets of clutches, labeled C1-C5. 2 clutch packs (C1-C2) are rotating, and transfer input torque to certain elements in the planetary sets, while the remaining 3 sets (c3-C5) are stationary and lock each of the ring gears and their coupled components to the case when engaged. These transmissions contain no bands, sprags, or roller clutches - all gear changes are accomplished by direct clutch-to-clutch changes. Clutch engagements for each gear are as follows:

.............C1........C2........C3........C4........C5

  • Park..........................................................*
  • Rev.........................................................
  • Neu..........................................................*
  • 1st..........................................................
  • 2nd........................................................
  • 3rd.........................................................
  • 4th.........................................................
  • 5th.........................................................
  • 6th......................................................... (06-up models only)

VALVE BODY AND TRANSMISSION ELECTRICAL

Shifting is controlled electronically. The valve body contains 6 (03-earlier) or 7 (04-up) solenoids which control all functions. Solenoids A and B are "trim" solenoids that regulate the pressure on the oncoming and off-going clutches. both are pressure proportional to current (PPC) solenoids which operate at a frequency of 1KHz. Solenoid A is normally closed, providing full line pressure at zero current and zero pressure at 100% current. Solenoid B is normally open and provides zero pressure at zero current and full line pressure at 100% current. Solenoid A controls the oncoming and applied clutches while B controls the off-going clutch. In the event of a power or TCM failure solenoid, A will default to full pressure while B defaults to zero pressure, giving a limp-home capability. 04-up valve bodies incorporate a G solenoid which reduces the main line pressure by approximately 100psi during idle and low load operation, reducing heat generation. The F solenoid controls TCC apply and release. On 05-earlier models this is a PWM solenoid operating at 100Hz, while 06-up use a PPC solenoid operating at 1KHz.

Shifting is controlled by 3 normally closed solenoids, C, D, and E. These solenoids are strictly binary, applying either full line pressure or exhaust to its associated spool valve. The logical combination of these 3 valves determines which clutches are applied. Contrary to what some believe, the solenoids do not directly operate the clutches. The spools and solenoids are arranged so that each shift change will exhaust the off-going clutch via the solenoid B path while applying pressure to the oncoming clutch via the solenoid A pressure. Because of this, shifts must be sequential - the transmission will not skip gears when upshifting or downshifting. It also means that it is not possible to apply random sets of clutches, although it is possible that the unused solenoid combinations could create a non-valid clutch condition (i.e. C2 and C5 applied) which would create a lockup. There have been anecdotes of aftermarket controllers applying all 5 clutch packs while at speed, but I don't believe it is possible to apply more than 2 clutches with the arrangement of valving in the VB. That is not confirmed, however...

Here are the solenoid combos for the various gears:

.............C...........D...........E
  • Park.............................*
  • Rev................................
  • Neu..............................*
  • 1st.....................*.............
  • 2nd.................................. (If power is lost or TCM is inoperative, this is the limp mode gear)
  • 3rd.......*..........................
  • 4th.................................
  • 5th...................................*
  • 6th ???????????????????? (Don't have info for this....)

The VB also contains a pressure switch assembly which gives feedback to the TCM on which solenoids are engaged. The PSA also houses the trans temp sensor, which is a negative temperature coefficient thermistor. All VB electricals are passed through the case using a standard GM 20-pin connector, identical to the one used on the late 4l60Es and 4L80Es. Looking at the connector in the trans, starting with the upper left and working left to right, top to bottom, the pins are labeled A-W, with the letters I, O, and Q not used. The pin assignments and color codes of the INTERNAL wiring harness for 5-speed models are as follows:

  • A - Dk Green - Shift Solenoid C
  • B - Orange/Black - Shift Solenoid D
  • C - Pink - Power to shift solenoids C, D, and E
  • D - Lt Green - PSA terminal A
  • E - Red - PSA terminal C
  • F - Blue - PSa terminal B
  • G - Orange - PSA terminal E
  • H - Black - PSA terminal F
  • J - Brown - TCC solenoid F
  • K - Tan - PSA terminal D
  • L - Red/Black - Trim Solenoid A
  • M - Lt Blue - Trim Solenoid A
  • N - Gray - Trim Solenoid B
  • P - Purple - Trim Solenoid B
  • R - ????? - Line Pressure Solenoid G (04-up only)
  • S - Black - TCC Solenoid F
  • T - Tan - PSA terminal F
  • U - Green - IC to terminal V
  • V - Green - IC to terminal U
  • W - Black/Tan - Shift Solenoid E

For 6-speed models, the internal connections are as follows (no color codes - sorry:

  • A - Shift solenoid C
  • B - Shift solenoid D
  • C - Shift solenoid E
  • D - PSA terminal A
  • E - PSA terminal C
  • F - PSA terminal B
  • G - PSA terminal E
  • H - PSA terminal F, IMS terminal F
  • J - TCC solenoid F
  • K - PSA terminal D
  • L - Trim solenoid A, TCC solenoid F, main pressure solenoid G
  • M - Trim solenoid A
  • N - Trim solenoid B, shift solenoids C, D, and E
  • P - Trim solenoid B
  • R - IMS terminal A
  • S - Main pressure solenoid G
  • T - IMS terminal E
  • U - IMS terminal D
  • V - IMS terminal C
  • W - IMS terminal B

Other electrical components include 3 (05-earlier GM apps) or 2 (06-up GM apps) variable reluctance speed sensors and an NSBU (Neutral Start back-Up) switch (05-earlier) or IMS (Internal Mode Switch - 06-up). The first speed sensor is in the bell housing and gets its signal from the pump vane ribs in the converter housing. On 6-speed GM apps, the bell housing speed sensor is deleted, and the TCM instead gets engine speed information from the ECM via the GMLAN bus. The second sensor is the turbine speed sensor in the main housing, and pics up off of either the PTO gear or a stamped steel tone ring that replaces the PTO gear in units without a PTO option. Finally, 2WD transmissions have an output speed sensor in the output housing that reads off of a 40-tooth tone ring on the output shaft. 4WD models use the speed sensor and 40 tooth tone ring in the transfer case tail housing. 4WD models have a switch input to notify the TCM that 4Lo mode is engaged, and the TCM makes appropriate compensation for the TC low gear ratio.

The NSBU switch on the 01-02 5 speeds is essentially identical to that used on the 4L60Es. There are 2 receptacles on the NSBU. The 4-pin gives the TCM information regarding the gear selected, while the 7-pin accesses switches are used for P-N starter lockout and backup lights. The 4-pin receptacle's pins are marked A, B, C, and D. Depending on the shift position selected, a combination of 2 of these pins will be grounded. Here's the table, with the grounded pins marked with an asterisk:

.............A...........B...........C.........D
  • P.................................................
  • R................................................
  • N...............................................
  • D................................................
  • 3...................................................
  • 2................................................
  • 1...............................................

Since only 2 terminals or no terminals (in the case of 3rd) are valid combinations, the TCM can sometimes determine if there is a wiring or switch malfunction. The standard wiring color codes and their connection to the TCM J2 connector for the 4-pin receptacle are as follows:

  • A - Blue - pin 5
  • B - Gray - pin 7
  • C - White - pin 8
  • D - Yellow - pin 6

NOTE: On GM pickups, these wires go to the ECM, which then buffers and feeds them to the TCM. On stand-alone apps, they will be wired directly to the TCM. This is a helpful bit of info for those modding a GM pickup harness ;)

The 7-pin connector on the NSBU has pins labeled A-G, and their corresponding wire colors and assignments are as follows:

  • A - Not used
  • B - Tan - Park Accessory
  • C - Blue - Rev/Park Accessory fuse
  • D - Green - TCM analog ground (TCM J2 connector, pin 20)
  • E - Yellow - Park/neutral start battery feed
  • F - Pink - backup lamps
  • G - Orange - Starter relay

03-05 models used a very similar NSBU switch assembly, except they have a single connector that contains all the pins, rather than 2 separate connectors.

06-up 6-speed transmissions no longer use an external NSBU switch. The external switches were prone to failure caused by internal corrosion due to exposure to water. The park and reverse accessory and backup lamp switch functions were moved to the column. Park/neutral and gear selector position info on these transmissions is done with an internal mode switch (IMS) mounted on the rooster comb inside the transmission. Its functions are brought out through the 20-pin connector on the transmission (see above). The F pin on the IMS is common, and depending on position one or more of the remaining pins will be switched to the F pin. Pin A is connected to the ECM, and is used to notify it that the transmission is in either park or neutral, thus allowing the engine to be cranked. The final 4 (B-E) are connected directly to the TCM and tell it what range is selected, NOTE; On GM trucks, the PRNDL is labeled P-R-N-D-M-1, with only those 6 positions available via the column shifter. However, the transmission itself has 7 positions internally - the last position is simply not used in GM vehicles, and the travel is limited in the column shifter so a GM vehicle cannot physically shift into the last position. However, a DIY shifter setup WILL be able to shift into that last position unless it is likewise limited (i.e. using a 3-speed floor shifter rather than a 4-speed floor shifter).

Note that these pin assignments are those of the switch itself, NOT the 20-pin external connector. Refer to the external pinout description above for the 6-speed to find the external pins connected to these internal pins.

............A............B............C............D............E
  • P....................................*.............................
  • R..................................................................
  • N.................................................*...............
  • D..................................................................
  • 3...............................................................
  • 2..................................................................
  • 1..................................................................

Information continued in later posts.
 
#539 ·
Anybody know how to get a speed signal from pin 25 on an allison MD tcm?? I've tried every way I can figure, and it just seems dead. Also EFI live will not calibrate my TCM it says TCU Map not supported, so I'm kinda in the dark about what's going on inside and what options may or may not be enabled. Still working on getting my copy of Allison DOC working.
 
#541 ·
He has a A50 TCM

Dale
 
#542 ·
As kind of an update for the Caterpillar TPS situation on the two sensors I posted part numbers for. The original part number sensor I posted is a 2661466 and costs around $100, the connector for this style sensor is a 1552260 and takes 3 9W0844 pins that crimp onto your wires and insert into the connector. This sensor rotates the same direction as the VE rotary pump throttle shaft does when its mounted on top of that shaft, the same way Dodge mounted them on automatic equiped diesel trucks of the 89-93 vintage.
The cheaper sensor I posted 2691983 costs about $40, the connector for this style sensor is a 2304013 and takes 3 9W0844 pins that crimp onto your wires and inserts into the connector. This sensor rotates OPPOSITE the direction of the pump shaft, which means you can't mount it on the pump like the Dodge trucks did, but you can mount it on the pedal or throttle linkage in the appropriate place.
Hope this helps out you guys, I've had several inquiries about plugs for these sensors, I should have posted the part numbers for the connectors when I put up the sensor numbers.
On the voltage regulation side of things for the output of these sensors, there's a cheap and easy alternative available from Radio Shack. Their part number 276-1770 is for a LM7805C transistor rated at 1 amp. It has 3 legs to be wired as follows, Vin is wired to the output of the TPS (signal wire), ground pin goes to ground (or tie into ground wire from the TPS), and the Vout pin would then go to the TPS input on the TCM. This little transistor is a 5 volt regulator in one package, easy hook up, costs about $1.99, compact enough to mount anywhere, rated to more than 3 times actual current draw of the TPS (plenty of safety). -Chuck
 
#543 ·
Cool info on the TPS sensors! I used a 97 Cummins tps on mine, just the potentiometer type ( I am using a medium duty A50 TCU so it works). The throttle shaft on my detroit turns very little, maybe 20 deg, and I wanted to mount the sensor on top of it. So what I did was power it with 12v instead of 5v to give it a quicker voltage rise to rotation ratio, but that raised the idle output to about 30% in EFI. so I added a 1.2V zener to drop the voltage coming out of the TPS to 0 at idle, and now I have a perfect 0 to 100% sweep in EFI with the range of motion I have on my throttle shaft. My allsion man also told me the the inputs are safe to a nominal 12v, so I didn't add a clamping diode, but you could.

Another thing that happened is my TC lockup mysteriously started working after trying to pull the calibration with EFI, which I cannot currently do, as EFI does not have the OS in the TCU mapped out.

As of now, I have working: tow/haul mode, 6th gear cancel, TC lockup at about 15mph (just after 2nd gear) good kickdown operation(TPS), and just a really nice shifting transmission. I have not looked into tapshift, I think it may work after some of the reading I have done on MD tcms but I'm not sure. The ranges available on the shifter are 1,2-3,4-5,6,N,R,P. Dale had told me that I could probably grind an indentation in the shift detent in between the existing ones to get 1,2,3,4,5,6, I may try holding it in those positions and watching the selected gear in EFI to see if that will work.
 
#544 ·
I joined today, and I am sure that this has been asked before, and answered repeatedly, but I cant find the answer. So here it goes- I have a 1979 K-30 w/ 454 and sm465. I have all the power I could ever need, but I cant seem to keep gas in the tank. I routinely get 5-8 mpg. So I want a 12v Cummins, and want the Allison 1000. I have 2 questions:

1.) I saw at the beginning of the thread on t-cases, basically there is no hope of adapting a Chevy np205 to the Allison. Is this correct?

2.) I want to have the gear selector for the Allison work off of a column shift, is that a possibility, or would I have to get the aftermarket floor shift? Hoping to tie it in to the column, I would like to keep this truck looking as original as possible. Even if it costs more...

Any help would be great. I have seen conversions of similar year models, but they used the floor shifter. Just want as much info as possible before I get too deep and find I went in the wrong direction to start off with...
 
#554 ·
I have a a1000 mated to a np205. I had the output shaft turned down and resplined. Then used a round pattern 205 and made a spacer ring.. Seems to work fine..
 
#545 ·
You could keep the column shift, but would probably have to play with the ratio of the lever on the trans to get full movement. And you would also have to re-letter the gear indicator to rean P R N 6 4 2 1.

I dunno about t-cases, anythig can be adapted to anything with the right tools/shop, but you are probably stuck with whaterver chevy uses behind the dmax without making parts. is it the np231? I can't remember.
 
#546 ·
Thanks ShaferDiesel, I have looked around on the web, I'm probably not putting in the correct info, or dont know what I'm looking at when I get the search results. Can you give me a heads up on a shop that can build the adapter(s) that I need? I guess it would help if I actually took apart the d-train, but once I get it down I dont want to put it back together with the same components. I'm sure taking down the 205 I have is a must so that I can check out the spline input and bolt pattern, I think the spline count for a sm465 is 10? Not sure, but its obvious that someone played around with the truck a bit before I owned it, judging by the fan shroud for a small block that is barely clearing the fan and block components on the 454. I just know me, and patience is not a strong point. If I tear this truck apart and THEN get the parts and have any sort of wait time, with my work schedule (or lack thereof) I'm afraid it will just sit. I tried taking it to a local mod-hotrod shop, they turn out REALLY nice work, but the guy tried his best to talk me into an LS-3 motor. Even after repeatedly telling him I have no interest in showing or racing this truck. Not to mention the fuel economy/dependability/ reliability.
 
#547 ·
I don't know of any other shops to recommend, but you send me your allison output shaft and np205 input, and I'll mechine the alli output to match. If you don't have a alli yet, just send your np205 input and I can machine one of my outputs here, and send you the tail housing and output ready to go if you will send me your stock one when you get it.
 
#548 ·
http://www.trailtechfab.com/gallery/main.php This guy is who I got my adapter from to bolt a Dodge 205 onto the Allison. I actually used a figure 8 205 to Getrag 360 adapter since the factory adapter on my 205 (came off a Getrag) would bolt to the Allison, but was clocked flat. He sends you all three parts of the adapter and you put it together how you want and weld it solid. Since it's the same dimensions as the factory adapter, all spline engagements are the same. 4X4 Allison has 29 spline output, same as Dodge 205 input. Or you can change it to whatever you want. Mine ended up being an expensive clocking ring, but I'm happy with the result. -Chuck
 
#549 ·
So, Finally got the Allson2100 mh delivred hre in sweden. It bolted right up on the BT-6 where the AT-545 was Before.
Tcm is dated 2006-05-24 and is a A40 model. It also came with the selector module to put on the dashboard.Missing the
harness for that thou. Would be glad for info on where to get the connectors to that and the shiftermotor on the transmission.
I got a piece of harness on the transmission as well on the Tcm so that we can take care off.Any ideas how to proceed are
welcome and appriciated.Thanks for a great forum. Matz
 
#552 ·
I have an allison 1000 and it is on a duramax that I built. I had the tranny rebuilt and it worked just fine for a few weeks and now it keeps throwing the nsbu. At least I think that's what happening. I will shift it into park or drive and the indicator will dissapear than it goes into limp mode I will replace it and its fine for a few mins than it blows again. I don't have access to a code reader at the moment. And it hasn't been in any mud or water. Any help would be amazing.
 
#553 ·
Without codes it is almost impossible to diagnose problems on an Ally.. Have someone with a Tech II or EFI Live pull the codes, then post them up in Mike L's Trans Talk on the Duramax Diesel forums. Diagnosing problems on Duramax/Ally combos is his specialty (well, that and building high-power capable Allys.), and you will likely get a quicker answer to your problem.
 
#557 ·
GREAT Thread!

Many thanks for this thread guys!

I have a classic motor home which is a Dodge M600 chassis with a typical 440 and 727 3 speed powered.
This thing is 31' and it has a big Rockwell rear end with 4.88:1 gears. Talk about a worthless setup with today's gasoline!
A diesel swap was the way to go in my mind with a Cummins 6BT. But to make it fuel efficient you want to hit that target 1800-1900 RPM range at cruise.
I need a transmission that provided the correct OD ratio for my setup. I started looking at Allison transmissions but I found it hard to get good information. I found the Allison 2000 had the right ratios and this board was about the only place I found good info on this transmission baring getting my hand on a factory manual.
 
#561 ·
Dimensions

I'm looking for dimensions of the Alison 1000 and the RH47.

Presently have the Alison (bought from MaxPF here on the forum) behind an ISB 170 3.9L for a project. Having issues with it being so large, so I need to consider other options, like the RH47. The goal is to stuff it all in a 1932 Ford pick up, but the rear gear train, and the diameter of the transmission is proving to be troublesome.

Not the right thread, but if anyone has a source for ISB 170 upgrades, or someone to work on the computer, let me know.

John
 
#563 ·
47rh

No, I'm asking about the 1996 - 2002 Dodge tranny not the electronic one that came later.

My main issue is the diameter of the body of the Allison 1000. I have the motor and tranny dropped down and forward as much as possible, but the remaining foot well is pretty narrow. But I do also have an SAE3 bellhousing issue if I go with a different transmission. Looking at both automatics and stick at this point to see if there are better options for me. Issue with stick, is then I'm adding a pedal and even though the diameter of the tranny is smaller, it makes more foot well issues.

John
 
#566 ·
I want to convert a vintage 40s era rear engine touring coach from a spicer 4 spd to an Allison 2100MH. engine is the 401 Magnum big V6 gas engine and is configured with an SAE 3 flywheel housing. GCW is approx. 23,500. rough measurements indicate the driveshaft u joint centers will be approx 6 inches with a slight side offset to the pinion yoke. anybody have thoughts as to what an acceptable angle would be on a short driveshaft? in the horizontal plane the trans yoke and pinion yoke are pretty close. is there any rule of thumb in determining acceptable angles? thanks.