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Discussion starter · #342 ·
No worries. Another guy on here swiped it already :D
 
Sorry didn't get her out of the garage this weekend had bad storms fryday and saturday night had to help clean up around the yard and at my daughters and my sons the basement leaked some.she is ready for the AC chargeing and test drive.bouncebouncebounce

Dale
 
Finnally got the truck out of the garage sunday late afternoonwouldn't shift found out it went in limpmode only went around a couple of blocks.Tonight we put EFI on the TCM and she had PO751,PO772,PO975,PO761,PO762,PO960,P2761,P0659,P2671,U0100 Haveter doing some checking out we cleared the codes and only 4 came back don't have that list with me it is with Chris and freind of mine with EFI live.The TPS would only go to 22.7% going to play with it tommorow night.The tapshift is show that it is working on the computor don't know about the T/H.

Dale
 
Discussion starter · #346 ·
Finnally got the truck out of the garage sunday late afternoonwouldn't shift found out it went in limpmode only went around a couple of blocks.Tonight we put EFI on the TCM and she had PO751,PO772,PO975,PO761,PO762,PO960,P2761,P0659,P2671,U0100 Haveter doing some checking out we cleared the codes and only 4 came back don't have that list with me it is with Chris and freind of mine with EFI live.The TPS would only go to 22.7% going to play with it tommorow night.The tapshift is show that it is working on the computor don't know about the T/H.

Dale
P0751=Shift Solenoid A Performance or Stuck Off
P0772=Shift Solenoid E Stuck On
P0975=Shift Solenoid B performance
P0761=Shift Solenoid C Performance or Stuck Off
P0762=Shift Solenoid C Stuck On
P0960=Pressure Control Solenoid A Control Circuit Open
P2761=Torque Converter Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid Control Circuit Open
P0659=Actuator Supply Voltage 1 (HSD1) High
P2671=Actuator Supply Voltage 2 (HSD2) High
U0100=Loct Communication With ECM/PCM

You either have a severe wiring or grounding issue, or your transmission isn't a 6 speed. The U0100 means that you either have a dmax TCM or perhaps that your link with the BCM is faulty.

Also, I never mentioned this, but the heat sink on the Ally TCM is NOT at ground potential, and absolutely must NEVER contact the chassis or any cround or hot wires. This will cause more than a malfunction; it can destroy the TCM.
 
Thanks I new about the heat sink on the TCM.The 3 of 4 codes have the HDS1 and PO751

If you have still have my no.call me collect.

Thanks
Dale
 
I had 3 wires in wrong spots at the TCM.That will teach me to do wiring late like midnight.Going to clear codes tomorrow night and take her for another test drive.



Dale
 
We don't have eny codes driven around for 7miles.has tap shift but no lockup.Only got to 5th could not get enough mph for 6th.The TPS got up to 71%.WE have all the data with EFI live saved.Going to play around to try for lockup.will keep everyone posted.

Dale
 
Max any thoughts on the lockup.

Dale
 
Discussion starter · #351 ·
Hey Dale,

Lockup could be a few things. First thing to check is whether the TCM is commanding lockup, which should have a PID on EFILive. If lockup is being commanded, then there is probably an issue with the wiring, a solenoid, the lockup valve, or the converter itself. Even IF it is showing lockup being commanded I would unplug the appropriate pin on the trans connector (pin J), hook it to a test light or volt meter (with the other side to +12V), drive around, and see if it shows a closed circuit when TCC lockup is commanded.

If the TCM is not commanding lockup, then the issue is probably with the software. However, a non-functioning trans temp sensor will also cause the converter to not lock, since it makes the TCM think the trans is cold. Use EFI Live to check the trans temp. It should read ambient-ish when the truck hasn't been driven, and of course the temp should increase to normal operating temps as you drive, especially with a non-functioning converter clutch. If the temp sensor reads really cold, then either there is a wiring problem or the sensor is bad. They don't usually go bad, so wiring is more likely.

If the temp sensor is working and no lockup is being commanded, then it is an issue with the converter lockup tables. As you noticed, the max TPS reading is around 69%. I have been talking to a guy on DuramaxDiesels who goes by the name of DuraToTheMax, who is very sharp on this stuff. He noticed this as well, and between us we have as of yet been unable to determine why we only get around 2/3rds range. Without a 6 speed 8.1L truck to play with for a few days this is going to be a difficult problem to sort out. Remember, throttle position and delivered torque are calculated parameters, not literal ones. I should point out that certain operational aspects will be determined by the requested torque (unmanaged) input and the delivered torque (managed) input. If you refer to post 95 I talked about that, and mentioned that BOTH inputs need to be connected to the TPS output. I showed a simple schematic - if you are using a CAT TPS with an 8V output make sure the Schottky diode is included and is inserted in the proper polarity (white band goes toward the TPS).

Assuming the TPS is driving both inputs on the TCM, you will need to scale the percentages in the shift and converter lockup tables so that 68%=100%. This will probably take some trial and error. Remember that the speed inputs may be off as well due to your gearing and tire combination. If the TCM believes that the speed is too low, it won't command lockup. This also gets confusing, as some of the parameters are for the TCM's internal speed calculations while others only affect the speedometer output. A good diagnostic test may be to set the converter tables to command lockup at whatever minimum speed and TPS position allowed by EFI Live, flash it, and see if lockup works. By doing so, it should lock up shortly after the 1-2 shift. Once that works, then you can play with the tables to dial in the speeds and TP where you want the converter to lock/unlock.

Hopefully the above makes sense. It's late, I'm tired, and so I might be rambling a bit :)
 
Thanks for the response.I have the tps wired just like you said.We are going to do some tuning tomorrow.I will keep you updated and have more questions for sure.



Dale
 
Dale, is your brake switch working properly?
yes brake switch is working.

Max
I tried to get ahold of Ben on the lockup setup he has waiting for a reply.The same goes for fleece not heard from them either.
We have tried everything you have talked about and sofore still no lockup.Bens setup seems to be the best option.I can't get on his site he must be updating.i doo like the way the trany is working sofore even though not locking up.smooth going in reverse and going in forward gears.have reset the shift points and tapshift work fine don't know about the T/H.It would be great to have some kind of way to show what gears you are in.

Dale
 
Discussion starter · #355 ·
Something isn't right. You shouldn't need an extra box to make lockup work. So, you tried a test light on the TCC pin (one side to +12V, the other to the pin) and never got anything? Next question: does EFI live read out engine RPM correctly?
 
EFI is correct with my tack.I still have to test the tcc wire.haven't had time to work on her the past couple of days.

Dale
 
All the wireing is correct and we can manually lock the convertor with EFI.Have made alot of phone calls and all have said that it is in the software frome the ecm to the TCM.We worked on the EFI for 2 hr.yesterday driveing around.We have all the shift points working good for me to be able to drive it around can't realy find out how good the truck will run with out the trany locking up.Tap shift works good and can't tell you much about the T/H.I know we will have to reprogram the TCM again when we find out what is happening to lockup.Even though I 'm having this lockup problem I'm still happy with the swap.
WARNING DON'T LOCK THE TC WHILE YOU ARE DRIVING TRANNY DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL GIVES A HARD SHUTTER THE GOES INTO NUTRAL AND YOU HAVE TO REFLASH IT.
Dale
 
Discussion starter · #358 ·
Is this TCM from a DMax truck?
 
Yes every thing came out of a 06 Chevy.

Dale
 
Discussion starter · #360 ·
Therein may lie the problem. I'm not sure this will ever work correctly with a DMax TCM. It expects information from the ECM that the 8.1L TCM does not...
 
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