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The complete Allison 1000/2000/2400 info and swap guide thread

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I decided to start a thread devoted to this trans for a couple reasons. First off, there is a LOT, and I mean a LOT of misinformation out there. Second, there is little useful info for some basic specifications on these transmissions. Finally, a lot of guys think they are too complicated or too expensive, when in fact they are no more complicated or expensive than, say, a 4L80E or 48RE that is built to do the same thing. Since I have decided to swap a 1000 into my truck I have been heavily researching all the details. While I still don't have all the answers I want, I do have most that I need, and I figured why not consolidate this information somewhere to help out other folks who contemplate this swap. I think a lot of folks get turned off of an Ally swap simply because the information is sporadic and often contradictory.

With that said, my goal for this thread is to include as much FACTUAL INFORMATION as possible. If info is prefaced by "I think", "Supposedly", "I heard", "My friend said", etc. I don't consider it factual. I don't want a thread full of anecdotal information, but rather facts that people can use to make an informed decision and help them successfully complete a swap. ;) With that said, including unconfirmed info and opinions is fine as long as it is presented as such.

Also, when adding any information, make sure to specify what generation of Allison it belongs to. There is the pre-2004 5 speed, 04-05 5 speed, and 06-up 6 speed, with various revisions among the years. Try to be as specific as possible.

Anyway, with that said I will start with some basic info about the 1000/2000/2400 series.

GENERAL INFORMATION

The Allison 1000/2000/2400 series are torque converter driven, fully automatic transmissions with 5 or 6 forward speeds. 5th and 6th are overdrive gears, and the overall ratios are dependent on model. All have a neutral and reverse gear as well, and the 1000 and 2400 series have a park position which actuates an integral park pawl. The basic max ratings for this series of transmission is 300HP, 550lb-ft input torque without SEM/torque management, 620lb-ft input torque with SEM/torque management, and 850lb-ft turbine torque. These are the ratings published by Allison for MD on-road use. As we know, the ratings for GM pickups with the DMax are higher, but the GVW and duty cycle of a pickup are less than a Md truck, so Allison rates the trans conservatively. No doubt the software in the TCM has a huge impact on the amount of power the trans can really take. GVW and GCW ratings of the trans depends mainly on whether the unit has a park pawl (units with park pawl are rated lower). GVW varies from 19,500lbs for the 1000 series to 33,000lbs for units without park. GCW ranges from 26,000lbs to 33,000lbs. Complete ratings and specs can be found here.

The gear ratios for the various models are as follows:

..........1000..........2000/2400

  • 1st.....3.10...........3.51
  • 2nd....1.81...........1.90
  • 3rd.....1.41...........1.44
  • 4th.....1.00...........1.00
  • 5th.....0.71...........0.74
  • 6th.....0.61...........0.64 (06-up models only)
  • Rev.....4.49...........5.09

INTERNAL OPERATION

Internally, the transmissions have three planetary gear sets controlled by 5 sets of clutches, labeled C1-C5. 2 clutch packs (C1-C2) are rotating, and transfer input torque to certain elements in the planetary sets, while the remaining 3 sets (c3-C5) are stationary and lock each of the ring gears and their coupled components to the case when engaged. These transmissions contain no bands, sprags, or roller clutches - all gear changes are accomplished by direct clutch-to-clutch changes. Clutch engagements for each gear are as follows:

.............C1........C2........C3........C4........C5

  • Park..........................................................*
  • Rev.........................................................
  • Neu..........................................................*
  • 1st..........................................................
  • 2nd........................................................
  • 3rd.........................................................
  • 4th.........................................................
  • 5th.........................................................
  • 6th......................................................... (06-up models only)

VALVE BODY AND TRANSMISSION ELECTRICAL

Shifting is controlled electronically. The valve body contains 6 (03-earlier) or 7 (04-up) solenoids which control all functions. Solenoids A and B are "trim" solenoids that regulate the pressure on the oncoming and off-going clutches. both are pressure proportional to current (PPC) solenoids which operate at a frequency of 1KHz. Solenoid A is normally closed, providing full line pressure at zero current and zero pressure at 100% current. Solenoid B is normally open and provides zero pressure at zero current and full line pressure at 100% current. Solenoid A controls the oncoming and applied clutches while B controls the off-going clutch. In the event of a power or TCM failure solenoid, A will default to full pressure while B defaults to zero pressure, giving a limp-home capability. 04-up valve bodies incorporate a G solenoid which reduces the main line pressure by approximately 100psi during idle and low load operation, reducing heat generation. The F solenoid controls TCC apply and release. On 05-earlier models this is a PWM solenoid operating at 100Hz, while 06-up use a PPC solenoid operating at 1KHz.

Shifting is controlled by 3 normally closed solenoids, C, D, and E. These solenoids are strictly binary, applying either full line pressure or exhaust to its associated spool valve. The logical combination of these 3 valves determines which clutches are applied. Contrary to what some believe, the solenoids do not directly operate the clutches. The spools and solenoids are arranged so that each shift change will exhaust the off-going clutch via the solenoid B path while applying pressure to the oncoming clutch via the solenoid A pressure. Because of this, shifts must be sequential - the transmission will not skip gears when upshifting or downshifting. It also means that it is not possible to apply random sets of clutches, although it is possible that the unused solenoid combinations could create a non-valid clutch condition (i.e. C2 and C5 applied) which would create a lockup. There have been anecdotes of aftermarket controllers applying all 5 clutch packs while at speed, but I don't believe it is possible to apply more than 2 clutches with the arrangement of valving in the VB. That is not confirmed, however...

Here are the solenoid combos for the various gears:

.............C...........D...........E
  • Park.............................*
  • Rev................................
  • Neu..............................*
  • 1st.....................*.............
  • 2nd.................................. (If power is lost or TCM is inoperative, this is the limp mode gear)
  • 3rd.......*..........................
  • 4th.................................
  • 5th...................................*
  • 6th ???????????????????? (Don't have info for this....)

The VB also contains a pressure switch assembly which gives feedback to the TCM on which solenoids are engaged. The PSA also houses the trans temp sensor, which is a negative temperature coefficient thermistor. All VB electricals are passed through the case using a standard GM 20-pin connector, identical to the one used on the late 4l60Es and 4L80Es. Looking at the connector in the trans, starting with the upper left and working left to right, top to bottom, the pins are labeled A-W, with the letters I, O, and Q not used. The pin assignments and color codes of the INTERNAL wiring harness for 5-speed models are as follows:

  • A - Dk Green - Shift Solenoid C
  • B - Orange/Black - Shift Solenoid D
  • C - Pink - Power to shift solenoids C, D, and E
  • D - Lt Green - PSA terminal A
  • E - Red - PSA terminal C
  • F - Blue - PSa terminal B
  • G - Orange - PSA terminal E
  • H - Black - PSA terminal F
  • J - Brown - TCC solenoid F
  • K - Tan - PSA terminal D
  • L - Red/Black - Trim Solenoid A
  • M - Lt Blue - Trim Solenoid A
  • N - Gray - Trim Solenoid B
  • P - Purple - Trim Solenoid B
  • R - ????? - Line Pressure Solenoid G (04-up only)
  • S - Black - TCC Solenoid F
  • T - Tan - PSA terminal F
  • U - Green - IC to terminal V
  • V - Green - IC to terminal U
  • W - Black/Tan - Shift Solenoid E

For 6-speed models, the internal connections are as follows (no color codes - sorry:

  • A - Shift solenoid C
  • B - Shift solenoid D
  • C - Shift solenoid E
  • D - PSA terminal A
  • E - PSA terminal C
  • F - PSA terminal B
  • G - PSA terminal E
  • H - PSA terminal F, IMS terminal F
  • J - TCC solenoid F
  • K - PSA terminal D
  • L - Trim solenoid A, TCC solenoid F, main pressure solenoid G
  • M - Trim solenoid A
  • N - Trim solenoid B, shift solenoids C, D, and E
  • P - Trim solenoid B
  • R - IMS terminal A
  • S - Main pressure solenoid G
  • T - IMS terminal E
  • U - IMS terminal D
  • V - IMS terminal C
  • W - IMS terminal B

Other electrical components include 3 (05-earlier GM apps) or 2 (06-up GM apps) variable reluctance speed sensors and an NSBU (Neutral Start back-Up) switch (05-earlier) or IMS (Internal Mode Switch - 06-up). The first speed sensor is in the bell housing and gets its signal from the pump vane ribs in the converter housing. On 6-speed GM apps, the bell housing speed sensor is deleted, and the TCM instead gets engine speed information from the ECM via the GMLAN bus. The second sensor is the turbine speed sensor in the main housing, and pics up off of either the PTO gear or a stamped steel tone ring that replaces the PTO gear in units without a PTO option. Finally, 2WD transmissions have an output speed sensor in the output housing that reads off of a 40-tooth tone ring on the output shaft. 4WD models use the speed sensor and 40 tooth tone ring in the transfer case tail housing. 4WD models have a switch input to notify the TCM that 4Lo mode is engaged, and the TCM makes appropriate compensation for the TC low gear ratio.

The NSBU switch on the 01-02 5 speeds is essentially identical to that used on the 4L60Es. There are 2 receptacles on the NSBU. The 4-pin gives the TCM information regarding the gear selected, while the 7-pin accesses switches are used for P-N starter lockout and backup lights. The 4-pin receptacle's pins are marked A, B, C, and D. Depending on the shift position selected, a combination of 2 of these pins will be grounded. Here's the table, with the grounded pins marked with an asterisk:

.............A...........B...........C.........D
  • P.................................................
  • R................................................
  • N...............................................
  • D................................................
  • 3...................................................
  • 2................................................
  • 1...............................................

Since only 2 terminals or no terminals (in the case of 3rd) are valid combinations, the TCM can sometimes determine if there is a wiring or switch malfunction. The standard wiring color codes and their connection to the TCM J2 connector for the 4-pin receptacle are as follows:

  • A - Blue - pin 5
  • B - Gray - pin 7
  • C - White - pin 8
  • D - Yellow - pin 6

NOTE: On GM pickups, these wires go to the ECM, which then buffers and feeds them to the TCM. On stand-alone apps, they will be wired directly to the TCM. This is a helpful bit of info for those modding a GM pickup harness ;)

The 7-pin connector on the NSBU has pins labeled A-G, and their corresponding wire colors and assignments are as follows:

  • A - Not used
  • B - Tan - Park Accessory
  • C - Blue - Rev/Park Accessory fuse
  • D - Green - TCM analog ground (TCM J2 connector, pin 20)
  • E - Yellow - Park/neutral start battery feed
  • F - Pink - backup lamps
  • G - Orange - Starter relay

03-05 models used a very similar NSBU switch assembly, except they have a single connector that contains all the pins, rather than 2 separate connectors.

06-up 6-speed transmissions no longer use an external NSBU switch. The external switches were prone to failure caused by internal corrosion due to exposure to water. The park and reverse accessory and backup lamp switch functions were moved to the column. Park/neutral and gear selector position info on these transmissions is done with an internal mode switch (IMS) mounted on the rooster comb inside the transmission. Its functions are brought out through the 20-pin connector on the transmission (see above). The F pin on the IMS is common, and depending on position one or more of the remaining pins will be switched to the F pin. Pin A is connected to the ECM, and is used to notify it that the transmission is in either park or neutral, thus allowing the engine to be cranked. The final 4 (B-E) are connected directly to the TCM and tell it what range is selected, NOTE; On GM trucks, the PRNDL is labeled P-R-N-D-M-1, with only those 6 positions available via the column shifter. However, the transmission itself has 7 positions internally - the last position is simply not used in GM vehicles, and the travel is limited in the column shifter so a GM vehicle cannot physically shift into the last position. However, a DIY shifter setup WILL be able to shift into that last position unless it is likewise limited (i.e. using a 3-speed floor shifter rather than a 4-speed floor shifter).

Note that these pin assignments are those of the switch itself, NOT the 20-pin external connector. Refer to the external pinout description above for the 6-speed to find the external pins connected to these internal pins.

............A............B............C............D............E
  • P....................................*.............................
  • R..................................................................
  • N.................................................*...............
  • D..................................................................
  • 3...............................................................
  • 2..................................................................
  • 1..................................................................

Information continued in later posts.
 
#691 ·
I'm looking at putting an Allison 6 speed behind an OM904 diesel. Since this is an MBE900 in the USA the best bet would be to get an MD TCM from behind one of those as the shift points should be set correctly. I've read through the entire thread a few times and was hoping someone could confirm the following.

1. I know the GM TCM can have a 4 low setting for the transfer but can this be set in the MD TCMs if I purchase Allison DOC?
2. In 4 low does the TCM use the output speed to do its calculation or does the transfer case ratio have to be manually entered via Allison DOC/EFI Live?
3. Does the TCM (either GM or MB) have any control over the PTO?
4. Finally to confirm all MD TCMs require an analog TPS input, correct?. Ironically the TPS for the mercedes engine supplies two PWM outputs, one for the ECU and I assume the other is for a TCM.

I ask all this as it determines whether I go an MD TCM or a GM TCM. My preference is the MD as it is easier and Allison DOC appears cheaper than EFI Live (unless I'm reading the pricing wrong). Really the ability to set 4 low for the transfer case is the deciding factor that I need clarified. On a side note what would happen if the transfer was put in 4 low without that particular setting in the TCM? Would it over-rev or just continually cycle gears?

Thanks,

John
 
#693 ·
Is your vss sensor in the transfer case are trans tail shaft you don't need to worry about 4 low cal.If the sensor is in the transmission.

Dale
 
#694 ·
Anybody came up with a gear indicator and a tow/haul signal for a light for the 6 speed trans yet? Back to working on the dash on my crew cab chevy swap and would like to put a tow/haul light and a gear indicator in the little box above the cluster where the glow plug and water in fuel lights are currently located.
 
#699 ·
For some reason I cannot edit my older posts to update the link. Here's the 06 wiring diagram:
 
#700 ·
DUD 45, regarding your question about all MD tcm's requiring a TPS input, some do and some dont..., the early ones connected to a mechanical injection engine require a tps input, latter ones with electronic control injection management dont recognize a tps signal. thats at least what i discovered when i did mine.
On a side note, my TCM is MD allison 5speed program, i was curious if a tap shift would work but was told by one of the tap shift kit manufacturer that it would not work as my tcm is not gm and the plugs and terminals are different.... i thought all 5 speed 3rd gen tcm's were physically the same and all terminal locations had the same function being gm or otherwise, the only difference is that some terminals are ...or are not used depending on program.
 
#702 ·
All gen 3 TCMs have the same connectors, and the main I/Os are on the same pins, but some of the secondary functions are different.
 
#701 ·
The hard part is finding that rare and elusive MD mechanical engine trans calibration. The people that know which one to use won't talk or share for obvious reasons, as they stand to profit from it. I am going to use a 1000 series behind a 4-53 Detroit and most likely will have to have someone else flash the TCM with a MD calibration to get everything to work the way I want!!!

Mike
 
#703 ·
I had ' cummins allison conversions " program mine, and i am not thrilled with it and they refuse to help me, saying that it is functioning correctly since it is not throwing error codes.
i had given them the application parameters, wheel sizes, axle ratios, vehicle weight, 14,000 to 16,000 lbs and it keeps on upshifting so i can find myself in 4th or 5th at 1200 rpm and 35mph or so.... it might work fine if the truck weights 6000lbs but sucks for me.
Apparently they only have ONE MD program with tps for the 2400 and really could not care less about the application. They just wanted my money and on top of it all, after sending my TCM to them, they charged me $25 shipping to send it out to be reflashed, $25 to get it shipped back to them and then $25 to ship it back to me. They send all the TCM's out to a dealer to have Allison programs loaded, they do NOTHING in house.... Im not sure why they say they are the experts.... i would of appreciated some honesty and simply be told that they dont have access to a program that would work for me as i had other options....
Anyways, i can manually downshift but Tap shift would be soooo much easier, and stepping on the pedal to make it down shifts works well but i find myself blacking out the horizon for a few seconds before it shifts... they dont seem to understand that 14,000 + lbs and 1200 RPM's in high gear simply doesnt work....
YEP... experts alright....
 
#704 ·
I talked to them about some tuning and wasn't impressed at all. He had some super squirrel box for sale that he claimed solved everything.

I used Jason at Custom Vehicle Services.
http://customvehicleservices.com/

We were able to use the MD cal and EFI to tune the shift points and shift timing and a slue of other things that are way over my head. That being said we weren't the first ones to do that either. Dale, and a few others have used this setup with both the GM and MD cals with great success. Mine still needs a tweak here and there, but is very drivable even at WOT.
 
#705 ·
The biggest thing is the ability to be able to tweak the programming to make it right for your application. Every combination is different and to say one size fits all ain't going to cut it. Contrary to popular belief, there isn't a whole lot Allison DOC is able to do to a transmission calibration. They can change a few strict parameters, and that is it. I came across this company http://www.transmissiontuner.com/. I haven't called them but from what they write up, they are very thorough. When I get closer I plan on giving them a call and pick their brain. Has anyone else here talked to them?? Just curious!

Mike
 
#707 ·
So he is a stand up guy that actually knows what is going on, not just there to blow smoke up my ass and not help me after the sale???

Mike
 
#709 ·
I thought about doing Allison TCM tuning for conversions, but I really don't like the idea of "tuning by spec". I like to be able to actually drive the vehicle with the owner and get it right the first time. I occasionally still think about getting back into it but I really don't have the time these days.
 
#711 ·
Data logging can't tell you how the shifts feel, unfortunately. But yeah, it would probably be adequate.
 
#713 ·
Good thread guys
I want an Allison 1000 behind my 12v Cummins 6bt thats in my Land Rover now...

I believe I am already SAE#3 bellhousing, hopefully I can find the flywheel and flexplate from a AT545 in the UK... just need to search for the ideal Allison... probably stateside as we dont have much smaller than 3000 series here...
 
#714 ·
So guys, sorry for the double post but I have done some more digging and I have formed a more informed post... so here goes...

I am UK based and I want to hook a 6 speed Allison auto to my 12v Cummins 6BT in my Land Rover.

I have a 0-5v potentiometer from a 300tdi land rover that will fit on the VE pump of the Cummins to give the throttle input.

My Cummins is already an SAE3 bellhousing so the SAE3 style Allison with input speed sensor is ideal for me.

I want to close couple the land rover LT230 transfer box as close as I can to the rear of the Allison which will mean redesigning the rear output casting and the output shaft, loosing the rear speed sensor.
So I was hoping it would be possible to use the land rover transfer box speed sensor with the High / Low range correction for the 1.003:1 and 3.321:1 ranges?

I would also like the ability to shift up and down and drive it manually for off road driving.

So basically my question is what control method would you recommend?
Allison MD or Chevy?
I have a fairly friendly local Allison dealer who might be willing to custom map my shifts and lock up tables with the MD set up, I am waiting to hear back from them.

Also what torque converter would you recommend? I am aiming for a torquey 400hp set up on the Cummins for towing and economy which i know is on the limit for a 1000 Series Allison.

I look forward to your reply and any feedback you are willing to share.
 
#715 ·
I want to close couple the land rover LT230 transfer box as close as I can to the rear of the Allison which will mean redesigning the rear output casting and the output shaft, loosing the rear speed sensor.
Get the 4WD rear housing used in Chevy and GMC 4WD pickups and the 4WD output shaft. You may have to source these parts from the US, but it will make adapting your t-case much easier. Before you use the LT230 case I would make sure it will handle the torque you will be pushing through it.

So I was hoping it would be possible to use the land rover transfer box speed sensor with the High / Low range correction for the 1.003:1 and 3.321:1 ranges?
If the speed sensor is variable reluctance (vs Hall effect) it should be no problem. Ideally a 40 tooth reluctor (aka tone wheel) would be best, but you can program pulses per kilometer so it isn't absolutely necessary. The Allison TCM can be programmed for different low range ratios; but only if using a TCM with a GM 4WD pickup truck OS. Likewise, tap-shift and Tow/haul mode will require a GM Pickup truck TCM.
 
#725 ·
Hi, am new to this forum, and I realize this thread has been going for some years now. Looking for any advice anyone might be able to offer. I have a 2015 Cummins, and I am running a 2007 Allison 1000 behind it. What I am trying to find is a wiring pinout for the 2007 Allison 1000 as well as a pinout for the stock Dodge 68RFE so that I might be able to figure out a way to create a harness so that all things that currently don't work in my truck might return to life. I have contacted Jason with Transmission Tuner and he has not dealt with anything this new, I have also talked with destroked and other, and as far as we can tell this is the first 2015 that has an Allison behind. Thanks to anyone that might be able to point me in the right direction.

Cheers!
 
#727 ·
As far as where I am trying to go with it; I want a functional truck for now. As for what doesn't work, well the ABS module had to bypassed, which means my ABS system doesn't work properly, the prindle doesn't work, no park sense, no reverse lights, no backup camera, locked out of the instrument programming in the dash as well as the commercial switches due to no park sense, no cruise control, no remote start, no tow haul, no manual gear select. There are few other quirks but they are all related to one of the above listed issues. I know some of these things are less serious as they are more or less "bells and whistles", but I feel like all of the issues would clear if I could find a way to merge the Allison output with what the truck wants to see.