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oxman, i thought i had read the whole thread, maybe i missed something, i would appreciate you pointing me to the part in the thread with tps part numbers, my problem is that i am trying to get my motorhome up and running asap as i depend on it for work. if i had time i would figure it out on my own as i hate to spend $1800 on a stand alone kit. i am doing a five speed, my gear ratio wont work for a six speed and its a big improvement over the old allison 643.
Destroked doesnt have many good reviews and they do not have a 5 speed kit in stock and are designing a new operating system for 5 and six speed, making me believe they had issues with the old program....i dont have one month to figure things out, do i want someone to hold my hand... NO, i was just hoping to find more usefull and concise info in one place. if all the answers were here, then so many people would not still have so many questions...! just stating my perspective, and those who do have a running truck did not get it done overnight, each one had trials and errors and redo's...
 
What tcm are you using for the 5 speed.
I have a 5sp.MD call no.that's for a A40 it also has tap shift and a secondary shift mode.
You can lock out 6 th gear in a MD cal.
Dale
 
I'll jump on the band wagon and reiterate the "read the whole thread" statement. All the part numbers and wiring information is in there, just not all in one place since we are talking about both 5 and 6 speed transmissions. Everyone does it a little different with the options: what engine, 2wd or 4X4, 5 or 6 speed, what trans adapter, intended use, trans modifications, need or want for tap shift and tow/haul, the list could continue. Most of all this stuff is covered in this thread somewhere.
 
The 2400 uses the same VB.you can use the same TCM as the 1000.

Dale
 
I think the CAT part numbers were posted more then once. I'm not going through this whole thread to get it for you when you know that it is in here, because we are telling you it's here. That's part of the reason this thread is so long, because people don't read and ask the same questions or the subject has already been covered. If you think you will get all the bugs out in less then a month you're sadly mistaken. I've had mine done for about 6 months now and the tuning is still not complete. It's just the nature of the beast. Doing any kind swap and expecting it to be done in the time frame you set is unrealistic.

The 8.1 setup I did for my buddy was in a 2000 7.3 F450. He originally bought all the destroked bs that I told him not to buy. He had it installed by a reputable transmission shop down here (I know the owner and is a good friend) and couldn't get the built trans to stop going into limp mode, TH never worked and Scott and his goons stopped helping the old man saying that everything worked flawlessly when he sent it back for testing. They make some nice adapters and other things, but the the Allison "turn key kits" are not one of them. I did a 8.1 setup for him using the info on this site and from verifying with Dale and Scott (not destroke). Believe me when I say the MD setup is way easier.
 
I joined today just to participate in this thread! Awesome amounts of very good info. I am kinda in information overload, but I think as I digest it things will be a bit clearer. What drove me here is the desire to put a 6 speed in my 97 Dodge 3500. Partially because I have a 2006 6 speed sitting on my shop floor right now!

Question I have for Max and maybe Dale or anyone else who has really gotten into the nuts and bolts of this, on the TPS, you have 2 inputs on the TCM, requested tq and delivered tq, right? You are wiring the tps to both circuits, but if you wanted a more accurate reading, would it be possible/realistic to rig up something to use Boost pressure as your delivered tq? I mean really your boost is the best reference to the load you have on the motor, particularly with a mechanical engine like mine.........
 
So what would we need? A pressure sensor that sends out a signal off a 5v reference or a PWM signal?
And can those limits be set/changed with efi to set your min and max levels to scale the delivered torque curve the TCM is seeing? AKA 45psi is 100% delivered tq........
 
I thought of that also of using boost.But didn't have time for more experiment I'm willing to bet you would have to have the same kind of type of signal as the cat tps uses.

Dale
 
Also, anyone dealt with transmissiontuner.com ? I spoke with him on the phone he is using a MD TCM from a top kick / Kodiak application and claims to have Tow/Haul abilities. I don't care about tap shift I've rarely if ever found a real use for it. For my application I only care about T/H. No BCM needed.......

Only issue is going to be getting the VSS signal from my 97 which uses the weird electronic sensor on an actual speedo gear. I'm guessing we would have to mount a reluctor wheel and sensor the output on my 06 A1000 or maybe the factory abs sensor in the rear axle has a proper pulse? Anyone know?
 
Can anyone identify what this connector is and how to hook up to it? This goes to the MD TCM for an early 2000 5 speed. Is this something that can only be used by an Allison tech? The trans is stuck in limp mode and I would love to figure out why.

thanks!


 
You don't have a 9 pin medium duty connector in the harness?
That would be the main connector with the twist lock, right? Yes I have that. The one in the pic ends up being the 120 ohm resistor attached to the twisted CAN wires. I ordered a connection to build a OBD2 harness off that. Don't know that it will work, but I'll try it.
 
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