[blk98rover]

How tall is the intake on top of the engine? If the whole engine is 35in from the oil sump to the intake tube how much height can I get rid of by changing the intake horn to come in on the side? A 26 inch engine will fit fine in my discovery with its two inch lift. The other ten inches of the Cummins I would have to make up in hood or lift mods and that is a lot. If the change of the intake can net me some room this would be great.

 

[JimmieD]

From the top of the valve cover bolt to the top of the intake tube on my 4BT I measure 4-1/16" if that helps.

Not sure what the crank throws are, but possibly a guy could whack off the bottom of the oil pan and make up the volume loss by fattening up the sides? I'd imagine there's another 5"-6" or more to lose there somehow. All sorts of possibilities on modifying the oil pan and lubrication system.

 

[WC53]

Dry sump system

There was a guy on this board who took his off . Lord knows why. A dry sump system is superior to anything else and gives the most clearance.

 

[JimmieD]

"A dry sump system is superior to anything else and gives the most clearance."

Yep, and with some components available from Milodon a guy can DIY it fairly cheap and easy.

 

[blk98rover]

JimmieD "A dry sump system is superior to anything else and gives the most clearance."

Yep, and with some components available from Milodon a guy can DIY it fairly cheap and easy.

Cool I did not even think about a dry sump. Do you know what the part #s are?

 

[tacoma]

Scavenger pumps are by no means "fairly cheap".

 

[Dougal]

In my rangie, the clearance issue is the lower corner of the block and the front diff head. This is with a RHD vehicle where the steering box is above the diffhead and the engine is moved to the left.
With LHD you may have more issues with having to move the engine to the right, creating more engine/diff clearance issues.

There was someone on pirate who knows of a LHD defender with a 4BT. Have you got many other past conversions to look at?

 

[CL10473]

Assuming you do all the fab work, you might be able to do for under $500. Ebay has a few used dry sump pumps. Those bad boys are $$$$$ new.
How many pickups do you think would be required?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/USED...013QQitemZ230146987044QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Weav...019QQitemZ290134969702QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Very...003QQitemZ130131777860QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

 

[blk98rover]

I can do the fab work so that will help with the cost. Moving the intake to the side should net me some room and a sump will help with the rest of the clearance issues. I have no other examples of anyone doing this swap in the group of local clubs around me. Looks like they will have to learn from me. I think Old Scout on pirate is putting in a 4bt, but I think he is going with a deferent drive train. thank you for the help. After seeing a 4BT in person the other day I was a little worried about how to stuff it in the Rover. :beer:

 

[CL10473]

The discovery project the ECR did a few years ago has a lot of good tech on it. Different engine but very relevant. What are you going to do to keep the dash from lighting up like a Christmas tree?

 

[CL10473]

these guys have there pumps integrated into the pan. Likes like a good way of doing it without a lot of brackets. If mounted in the right side of the engine could be pretty clean?

http://www.daileyengineering.com/main.htm

 

[blk98rover]

The DI 's have only a few lights on the dash to worry about. The ABS light is on already(common problem). For the rest I will probably remove the lights from the dash. This truck is my trail truck/weak end driver and I do not plan on getting rid of it. The pans on Dailey are great looking products thanks for the link. I would like to put a 300TDI in, but the parts on this side of the pound are hard to come by. I want to use this rig for cross country expedition's and the Cummins has more available parts in most towns over here.

 

[CL10473]

Do you have any plans for the steering box? From what I've read, it seem to be in the way (inside the frame rail).

 

[blk98rover]

I will have to fit the engine in the truck and see about the steering box. If I do change I will have to start greasing the front tie rods as there will no drips from the new box lol.