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All watercooled 4 cyl VW/Audi motors share the same bolt pattern, gas or diesel. So yes, you can directly swap a 4 cyl gasser to a 4 cyl diesel. If you're swapping a longitudinal engined Audi or making a mid engine vehicle with an Audi transaxle, they will bolt to any 4, 5, 6, or 8 cyl VW/Audi engine. The transverse VW/Audi transmissions are 4 or 6 cyl specific.
 
Whitbread, you said that you were putting a CBEA engine in a race car. I would like to know what you did for the ECM. I have a customer here that has put a CBEA in a Superlite Car but is having problems with the ECM letting the car go over 50 MPH do to the ECM not seeing the information over the gateway for the ABS module, VSS signal, etc. He has had a Malone Tune put into it to try and work around that, but with no success. Can you give me any hint on how I can get this thing to run right other then putting in a gateway module and ABS module?

Thank you,
Todd
 
If this thread is still monitored, I have a 98 Jetta donor and am wanting to put the TDI in a 62 Jeep truck. Preferred would be to keep the original T90 trans with the Spencer overdrive. (It's a lot of fun to have it valet parked with 4 shifters on the floor and two of them will disengage the drive!) I'm not having much luck locating the bits to mate those two together, so getting something like a toyota 5 speed is not out of the question. The best part is there is LOTS of room in the engine compartment to play around with!
 
If this thread is still monitored, I have a 98 Jetta donor and am wanting to put the TDI in a 62 Jeep truck. Preferred would be to keep the original T90 trans with the Spencer overdrive. (It's a lot of fun to have it valet parked with 4 shifters on the floor and two of them will disengage the drive!) I'm not having much luck locating the bits to mate those two together, so getting something like a toyota 5 speed is not out of the question. The best part is there is LOTS of room in the engine compartment to play around with!
This is the best place to start.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/

Conversion section
http://forums.tdiclub.com/forumdisplay.php?f=63
 
HI, I have a BRM TDI that i put in my rat rod and im trying to get it to fire up i have the vehicle the engine came out have and i pulled the harness out and had the immobilizer delete, I got a wiring diagram and followed it to a T and i still must be missing something. Wondering on any tips on what the computer needs to see to start up.
 
HI, I have a BRM TDI that i put in my rat rod and im trying to get it to fire up i have the vehicle the engine came out have and i pulled the harness out and had the immobilizer delete, I got a wiring diagram and followed it to a T and i still must be missing something. Wondering on any tips on what the computer needs to see to start up.
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Willy's beware

Got most of the details together and project finally underway. If Whitbread has suggestion or access to engine adapter, I could use a point in the right direction. Cotybuilt is the only one I have found to date.
 
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I used the TDI compressor so new lines with the mating TDI ends were built.
Its usually easiest to use the TDI accessories since they are already on the engine with all the correct brackets and belt.
I looked at using the Ford compressor but more work that changing the lines.
 
This is very interesting...
I have a 26’ Trojan with a velvet drive transmission behind a Chrysler 318
I was seriously thinking of switching to a 4bt Cummins
However this has my attention.
Any thoughts on mating a tdi to the velvet drive?


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This is very interesting...
I have a 26’ Trojan with a velvet drive transmission behind a Chrysler 318
I was seriously thinking of switching to a 4bt Cummins
However this has my attention.
Any thoughts on mating a tdi to the velvet drive?


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Mating to a Velvet drive souldn't be a problem. You just need to figure out how to mount a drive puck to the flywheel and make an adapter plate to mount the drive to the engine. I would use a heavy flywheel to prevent the engine from stalling when idling in gear.

A couple guys on boatdesign.net and on tdiclub.com have marinized 1.9 and 2.0 TDIs for some fairly substantial boats, replacing the old V6s and V8s. The 1.6 and 1.6T were marinized by Pathfinder marine until they closed up in the 90's, IIRC. There is a company that is currently using VW and Mercedes diesel engines in their diesel engine packages. I can't remeber which company it is tho. I'm out of touch. I had considered marinizing a 1.9TDI for a boat I want to build and out it in front of an Alpha I Mercruiser sterndrive.
 
Mating to a Velvet drive souldn't be a problem. You just need to figure out how to mount a drive puck to the flywheel and make an adapter plate to mount the drive to the engine. I would use a heavy flywheel to prevent the engine from stalling when idling in gear.

A couple guys on boatdesign.net and on tdiclub.com have marinized 1.9 and 2.0 TDIs for some fairly substantial boats, replacing the old V6s and V8s. The 1.6 and 1.6T were marinized by Pathfinder marine until they closed up in the 90's, IIRC. There is a company that is currently using VW and Mercedes diesel engines in their diesel engine packages. I can't remeber which company it is tho. I'm out of touch. I had considered marinizing a 1.9TDI for a boat I want to build and out it in front of an Alpha I Mercruiser sterndrive.
I appreciate the info. I found a adapter that is designed to use a manual trans flywheel and allow a tdi to bolt in place of a Chrysler small block. So I think that would allow me to mostly bolt one in place of my 318. However I need to either replace the velvet drive or convert mine to standard rotation as it’s currently set up for reverse rotation. As well as replacing the prop. Motor mounts are easy, I’m sure I can use the original heat exchanger, just need to add a reservoir, gm one wire alternator as well. I’m guessing I need a mechanical injection tdi as it’s a fly bridge with two helms using cables...
Now the exhaust, I think I could fabricate a riser off the back of the turbo and introduce water there to allow use of original through stern exhaust. I think temps below deck would be ok this way? Maybe add more ventilation...
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I know very little about boats. So just a passing question. Does anybody make a reversible rotation prop? Could that eliminate the need for a reverse rotation drive?
 
The rotation can be handled through the drive. Velvet makes left and right rotation drives, or used to. I think it's as simple as a gear swap to reverse the rotation. The only bad thing about having the props rotating the same way is prop walk, where the boat's stern wants to go to one side or the other. It's bad in reverse on some boats. Counter rotating props compensate for that somewhat. It may be possible to re-prop to compensate for the rotation. I don't know. I'm not a prop guy. I would consult a local prop shop.


Good discussion in this thread about dealing with heat. alh m-Tdi marinisation to match Mercruiser Gen1 drive

@dieselram94, the earlier 1.9TDI ALH can take a cable throttle. They are the easiest to convert and have the potential to make good reliable power with bolt ons. One thing to note here is the VW TDI has a redline around 4800rpm stock. I think your Chrysler's redline is around 5500 rpm. Is this correct? An MTDI will lose some efficiency and power. Malone in Canada can reprogram the computer to make more power and keep things running smooth and cool.

Malone Tuning ECU Tuning For Audi and Volkswagen

A few more links to info. This first one is good, or was good.
CDK is a good fellow to talk to about VW conversions.
Marinizing VW turbodiesel engines

More info from the guy on the TDI forum with video.
VW Audi 1.9 TDI marinization

More.
VW 1.9L PD TDI Marinizing
 
I know very little about boats. So just a passing question. Does anybody make a reversible rotation prop? Could that eliminate the need for a reverse rotation drive?
Props can usually be purchased for either left or right rotation. Props are only efficient spinning in one way. Unfortunately the drive I currently has is set up to run opposite of tdi.



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