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Injection timing seems off, Is it?

3.2K views 19 replies 4 participants last post by  nexxussian  
#1 ·
I am trying to go by the procedure in the shop manual to figure out if my 4bd1t is timed correctley, but I'm left a little confused. When the indicator mark for the timing pump is lined up, the crank is lined up too. Is that correct. The manual says that the timing should be 13 degrees.

To add to my confusion the pump seems to be injecting the no. 1 cylinder way be for top dead center. My guess is about 100 degrees before top dead center. The engine does seem weak, and may smoke a little to much, but runs smooth and starts easy.

How do I go about making sure if the timing is the correct 13 degrees?
 
#2 ·
do you have egt and boost gauge ? from what you said the timing is right but as i am sure you know the pump rotates on it's mounting bolts , towards the head more timing away less
 
#3 ·
Indeed it does, but the injection pump on a 4BD1T is on the other side of the block to a 4BT. On the Isuzu top of the pump away from the head advances timing. Same direction (clockwise from drivers perspective).
 
#15 ·
General rule of thumb (remembering tha all generalities are false) is that the temps after the turbo are roughly 300* F cooler, so 1200 with a little smoke isn't bad.

Not great, but not bad.

There is a practice some people use to drill the exhaust manifold without disassembly, drill it to final (tap) size in one step, with the engine running.

Don't let it warm up first, the exhaust should blow the chips fom the drill back out as it breaks through.

Shut the engine down, grease up your tap (to stick most of the chips to the tap) backing the tap out frequently to remove the chips that are stuck to it (regrease before tapping further) when you are done with the tap, restart the engine and it should blow most of what's left of any chips out the hole you just tapped.

Haven't tried that method myself, but it one's highly recommended by several of the members here.

Best of luck. :)
 
#16 ·
General rule of thumb (remembering tha all generalities are false) is that the temps after the turbo are roughly 300* F cooler, so 1200 with a little smoke isn't bad.
Yeah, of all rules-of-thumb, I like that one the least. The temp drop across the turbine depends on the pressure ratio across it, the absolute temperature into it and the efficiency at that flow.
You can get as high as 300C across a turbine when it's working hard. So I tell everyone to shift the probe instead. Knowing beats guessing every-time.
 
#18 ·
I didn't put the thermocouple in the in the manifold because I was concerned about drilling into cast. Has that presented any problems for anyone?