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VE vs inline pump starting

1.7K views 7 replies 6 participants last post by  Mikel  
#1 ·
Hello,
Now that I have two running trucks (one with a VE-4BT and the other with a P7100-6BT), I'm noticing that the 4BT starts easier and with less cranking than the 6. The 6 has a larger battery and much larger cables - No noticeable difference in cranking speed. Has anyone else experienced this? No cold starting aids used in either vehicle yet.
Mikel
 
#3 ·
I also have a 4bt and 6bt and yes the 2 more cylinders make a diffence when starting and the 4bt is just 12 volt system and the 6bt is a 24 amp 12 volt system to start. The 6bt just takes alot more to spin and get going then the 4bt and weights about 1,000 LBS and the 4bt weights 764 LBS. Plus with the VE pump on you 4bt it takes less to spin that then you P7100 on your 6bt.
 
#4 ·
If you have a good running ve pumped engine and a good running 7100 pumped engine, or a comon rail engine, dosen`t matter 4 cyl or 6 cyl, the VE Pumped engine will always start faster, it`s the nature of the beast. that`s been my observation. I`ve never hooked up the heater grids on my ve pumped suburban and crew cab dually 4x4, and never needed them in 17 years of hunting in colorado, montana, idaho, and utah.
 
#7 · (Edited)
The VE has reduced timing at low rpm...the p7100 timing is fixed.if you have a cummins with initial timing at something like 10 degrees,versus something like 16 degrees,the retarded timing will promote a faster start.

the ve will advance timing with more rpm...the p7100 6bt with timing retarded lower than 10 degrees will start fast,especially cold,but won't rev past 1600 rpm or so...that same p7100 set to 16 degrees advance can be a bit of a pig to start,but will be a snappy revver.

a ve set to initial timing of 12 degrees works very well...